Case 3 bottom plow?

[Red48M]

Hello everyone, I purchased this Case plow and have some questions about it. I plan to fix it up enough for plow days and to put a load on my tractors (M, SMD and W-9). I replaced the rear tire along with put some tires and rims on the front just to get it rolling. I found some shares that I can make work unless I find the correct ones, anyone have some? Well onto my questions. What model is it? What size tires/rims are suppose to be on the front? And last, what colors is it suppose to be? Any information would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Red48M.

 

[Red48M]

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[Anonymous-0]

Probably used 5.50x16 or 6.00x16 tires on the front, it's a 3x16 as you have measured it correctly.

 

[Randy-IA]

Hi , On a #8 which is essentially the same plow the furrow wheel is what Maark specified . The land wheel can be the same or the #8 manual calls for a 7.00-16 to 7.50-16 . Or they can be 6.00 to 6.70-15 for the furrow and 6.50 to 7.60-15 for the land wheel . I think that would translate into about a p205/** x 15 tire today . I put 225/85's (?) on mine and they are a little to wide for looks but they will work fine . They are about 8-1/4" wide . I'm waiting for some of the 205's to show up at the tire shop for my 4-14" #8 . I'd even use a 185/** if they were common but it seems they aren't to common anymore . I don't know to much about tires I just measure and go from there for my plows . It works for what I need . As for the other questions , I can't help with those either . All I have as of now is 3 #8's , 1 oliver , and a JD . Good luck ! ...Randy

 

[Randy-IA]

One more thing about the bottoms that you need to find out . Do they need a high suck in the share ? I don't think regular flat shares from a modern bottom will hold the plow in the ground very good since the new shares don't have much/any suck . Some of the more experienced plowmen on here might be able to answer that .

 

[Leroy]

Randy, the standard throwaway share has the same amount of suck as the blacksmith sharpen share if the share is sharpened correctly. I have seen a lot of shares that some amature tried to sharpen and they had put so much suck in them that they would not plow. And I have taken new throwaaway shares and cut a part of them off and laid them on top of the old blacksmith sharpen type of share so the nose and edge were in the correct spot as orignal and welded them on. The shares he has pictured he could do that with and if the added on part wore out could cut that back off and do a repeat with new. Just not let the throwaway get in the way of the bolts. The only throwaway shares that I have seen that did not have that nose were Oliver 12" shares for an old clutch lift plow and they worked but did not last very long. Was said they were made that way so could be used on a mounted plow without it wanting to go in the ground too deep but it did not make sence at that time (40 year ago) as all the mounted plows had the nose with suck.

 

[Leroy]

As long as the outside diameter of the tire will let the plow down in the ground as deep as you want to plow will be OK but if you do not have the correct dish to the wheel and a too wide of a tire it will keep that front bottom from being able to make a full width of cut furrow and the land wheel as long as the sidewall of the tire clears the frame they will work provided the rim is not too narrow for the size tire that the bead will not seat.

 

[Randy-IA]

Hi Leroy , That sounds like something I need to do with my QA ( quick attach ) shares . After cutting the new share is it necessary to cut the old share the same way to get a flush butt weld ? The way I read your statement was just lay it on top of the old share and weld it on . I have 13 of those old QA shares that need sharpening but the old smith in town refuses to do it anymore since he sold his trip hammer a couple years ago . He says doing it by hand is time consuming and a lot of hard work swinging a hammer and he's just not up to that anymore . I'm still waiting to talk to some blacksmiths I know but don't see but once a year at rendezvous . I have my own forge but I haven't been able to afford a decent heavy anvil . Besides , I don't know enough about the blacksmith trade to try something as precise as sharpening a share . Take care ! ...Randy

 

[Leroy]

Randy, shartpening a share is not that presice, I know you can do it if you can handle that hammer. I can send you directions for sharpening if you want. If there is any nose left on the shares I would not try the welding on of the throwaway but sharpen what is there but if there is no nose left then that will work and I just layed it on top with no cutting on the orignal share. The hound is getting a lot better around people. I had Char try to send a scan to a person in texas on a mower and instead She axidently sent him a picture of the grand daughter so it is not working to scan a page and send it.