Chisel plow for ih 560

[Janicholson]

A very good Farmall M can pull 5 shanks in the soil you describe in second gear. Small enough might let you gain a gear and get the same acreage tilled, too big and you break things or just do a field cultivator job poorly. Jim

 

[spacechem]

I am wondering how much power it takes to pull a chisel plow. I would pull it behind a diesel 560. I know that ground type makes a huge differnece so heres what i'm workin with. When the ground is dry and ideal for working it is pretty fluffy, however we dont have a ton of top soil 4 to 6 inches is common, under that is mildly tight clay. There are also some clay knobs that i would need to work that a disk wont hardly cut .
Thanks Nate

The photo G-Town posted is what I call a chisel plow. Ten feet sounds like an awful lot for a 560. We hooked onto my cousin's ten-footer (may have been eight- long time ago) with our W9. It was all it wanted and none too deep in black Illinois bean stubble ground.

Still, I suggest you look for a ten-footer. What I think no one else mentioned is it's easy to drop a shank or two to reach the size that's right for your tractor and conditions.

 

[crsutton81]

A safe figure that we use here in gray clay soils is to allow a good 12 hp per tine. This is assuming that it will be used for a primary tillage pass to bust up the hard pan, and not to be used as a field cultivator and tickle the topsoil.

I meant to include that I have a 5 tine Blanton that is a good match usually for a IH 574. It has rear wheel weights and fluid filled tires. At times my oldest son uses this same plow behind the JD 3020 diesel we have for his ground. It plays with it usually in 4th gear.

 

[rustred]

Here is what I pull with a 560. Cockshutt 247 10’. No problem at all. So here it is you nay sayers

 

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And here is the super 6 on the cockshutt 247.

 

[rustred]

And here is the 18’ vibrashank I pull with the 660.

 

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And the 660 with the 14’ deep tillage

 

[used red MN]

And here is the super 6 on the cockshutt 247.

Looks to me like you are blessed with “butter” ground! Or is it margarine?

 

[rustred]

Looks to me like you are blessed with “butter” ground! Or is it margarine?

Actually it’s nice dark grey wooded farmland, as farm land should be. Not like trying to farm clay gumbo full of rocks.

 

[560Dennis]

Nice, interesting ,you disc it first to break it up ,then chisel plow it twice , shallow and finish

 

[560Dennis]

And the 660 with the 14’ deep tillage

half ,over lap it ,ok

 

[wh]

Here in north central alabama a 7 shank chisel with regular teeth/not twisted will give a 80 ho tractor all it wants running 12 to 14 inches deep. Can only dream about what it must be like plowing in some of the dirt mentioned.

 

[flying belgian]

Here is what I pull with a 560. Cockshutt 247 10’. No problem at all. So here it is you nay sayers

Judging by the shine on the points you are only going 4 to 6 inches deep and that's fine if that's what you want to accomplish. I do not consider that deep tillage which it sounds like op is after.

If he is wanting to sink chissel into his tight clay and do what a chissel plow is designed for, he better get down to 5 shanks.

 

[Leroy]

I would say 10 foot is going to be a pretty good load for a 560. Most around here only pull about 8-10 feet with a 14or1566 . We only pull about 15 feet with 200 HP and I have pulled it with the 1466 and worked the tail off it to do so with to much slippage if you look at the tracks right behind the tractor. I would think more in line with about 6 feet would work better with a 560 . Speed to a point is your friend with a chisel plow to get the dirt to help cover the trash on top. Width of shovels and whether there is a sweep shovel, spike or, twisted on it. A chisel plow the shanks should be close to an inch thick front to back and field cultivators are only about 1/2-3/8 thick in the shank. They will also usually be wider for the chisel plow. Most want to be about 8-10 inches deep with them. Less is kind of useless for working dirt with them. Since they only turn the dirt the width of the shovel most use a twisted shovel of 3or 4 inches wide. Some will be half and half of right and left twist. Thus keeping it pulling straight in the field behind the tractor. We usually inter mix them so some don't throw dirt under the wheels so they don't cause it to jump and not dig evenly.

I think the tractor you have compairs to the ford 5000 that I had and at times the 7 shank I had was way to much for the ford power wise to handle with twisted shanks and had taken off 2 for only 5 shanks. I had a rental farm that the goverment deemed highly eroadable and no moldboard so that is why I had the chisel. As soon as I no longer had that farm the chisel left as well as I HATED the job it did. It was not traction problems as I had fluid and wheel weights but lack of power. No way would that tractor have pulled a 10 foot unit. And farms around when mpldboard was used no standing water or weed problems, as soon as switched to chisel would see water standing in the chiseled fields and weeds were thick and taking over.

 

[rustred]

Nice, interesting ,you disc it first to break it up ,then chisel plow it twice , shallow and finish

i just got that 10th 660 and got it running so i took it out in the worked field for a work out just to see how it performed. thats why i was going over some worked ground. am happy with the tractor. and that other10 ft was not used for a lot of years , i just had it out this summer trying out that super 6. my dad bought it new in the early 60's and he pulled it with his w6 till he bought his 560 in 1967. then thats what pulled it. i worked many fields with that set up years ago. and yes depth plays a big role but 6 inches around here is plenty good.

 

[JDIH]

Soil type definitely make a huge difference. Shovel type does also. I pull 9 shanks with 4" twisted shovels, which pull hard, with 130hp with duals. Soil type here is highly variable. Some places you're crusing alone effortlessly and other places it nearly kills it. In my ground 9 shanks is the absolute max for 130hp. 55hp wouldn't be worth hooking a chisel to here

 

[GermantownGreen]

Here is what I pull with a 560. Cockshutt 247 10’. No problem at all. So here it is you nay sayers

Same points we run.
I think Elmer measured and he got down 10" the other night. It was disced wheat bean ground that had not been chiseled in two years. Wet on top he was spinning some too. We've had some good moisture. Too late...
GG

 

[used red MN]

Soil type definitely make a huge difference. Shovel type does also. I pull 9 shanks with 4" twisted shovels, which pull hard, with 130hp with duals. Soil type here is highly variable. Some places you're crusing alone effortlessly and other places it nearly kills it. In my ground 9 shanks is the absolute max for 130hp. 55hp wouldn't be worth hooking a chisel to here

One reply says “as farmland should be“.. as if the quality of his soil is the bench mark. In reality, farmland is what it is, wherever you are trying to grow something in the soil.

 

[BarnyardEngineering]

Actually it’s nice dark grey wooded farmland, as farm land should be. Not like trying to farm clay gumbo full of rocks.

If only the "perfect" farmland were farmed, it sure would make things a lot more valuable.

 

[Leroy]

I think the tractor you have compairs to the ford 5000 that I had and at times the 7 shank I had was way to much for the ford power wise to handle with twisted shanks and had taken off 2 for only 5 shanks. I had a rental farm that the goverment deemed highly eroadable and no moldboard so that is why I had the chisel. As soon as I no longer had that farm the chisel left as well as I HATED the job it did. It was not traction problems as I had fluid and wheel weights but lack of power. No way would that tractor have pulled a 10 foot unit. And farms around when mpldboard was used no standing water or weed problems, as soon as switched to chisel would see water standing in the chiseled fields and weeds were thick and taking over.

Mine was a ford 3 point with nothing except the 7 shanks and was better if I took off 2 shanks for 5 shanks.