Classic CASE design

[db4600]

I?ve been scratching around the web to jar my memory on the
topic of the classic CASE ?frog eye? grill design. I recall
reading something about the styling coming from the
acquisition of ATC/ TerraTrac around 1957. This is foggy in my
memory and even foggier in my recent search. It appears that
ATC might of had that design on the table or possibly on some
larger models at the time J.I. Case purchased them, but that
also shows up on the CASE tractors in the ?57 model year
which leaves the design origin a bit ambiguous. Can anyone
confirm whether that design was ACT adopted by CASE or
was it CASE origin given to the crawlers after the CASE
acquisition?

 

[Case Nutty 1660]

Case bought ATC in 1957, They also got a new President at the reins with the ATC purchase Mark Rouitumu sorry cant spell his last name,, he was a real showman,, did every Big,, one of the first changes he made was to make the tractors have the "eyebrow" look starting in 1958 production as he hated what he called the "ice cream cone looking" grills. He cost Case a lot of money but he made money for them as well, he was solely responsible for the Case-O-Matic World Premiere, that WOWED dealers of all brands and sold far more tractors at that show thn Case could supply for a few months, he also was the Man who spent a Big pile of money to put a huge show on in the Bahamas after the hugely successful Phoenix COM show,, the Case tractors new design was based on the twin headlights the ATC crawlers had but it was much more refined in looks, hope that answers your questions
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[John Saeli]

Hey Tom!! You butchered that name!! Marc Roijtman is closer, but still not correct, I'm sure. He hated the wrap around grills on the 300's & 350's. Said the headlites back by the driver "looked like a pair of women's t!t's".

 

[db4600]

After more poking and your confirmations it does appear ATC had the ?eyebrow? design on the Terra Trac 1000 model in the ?57 model and Rojtman brought it with him to the new CASE models. I didn?t realize that Rojtman became president with that acquisition. I now understand that the Terra Trac monicker lived on with some of the yellow industrial line while the Ag line was badged as Case. The two lines being same model and model designation but offering different options as far as attachments.

 

[FredR]

I have a 610 crawler, Ag model 1958 and it is badged as CASE. I have a 600 construction model, about 25# difference in serial numbers.(parts machine) and it is badged as Terratrac. The decals in the battery box were similar, but the 610 does not say Terratrac on it anywhere. Terramatic drive, but not "Terratrac".
Hope this helps?

 

[db4600]

Pa?s ?58 310 has the Case colors and badge, but the counterweight has TerraTrac cast into it.

 

[Case Nutty 1660]

a 610 is not a terratrack drive,, terramatic yes, the 800 and 1000 series had terratrack drive, as they have conterroating tracks,, my 610 had terratrack in the ripper weights also, it was a bit misleading but I guess they wanted the terratrack name out there as they invented it
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[FredR]

(quoted from post at 04:23:30 04/07/19) a 610 is not a terratrack drive,, terramatic yes, the 800 and 1000 series had terratrack drive, as they have conterroating tracks,, my 610 had terratrack in the ripper weights also, it was a bit misleading but I guess they wanted the terratrack name out there as they invented it
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The 610 is not capable of spinning one track forward and one backward like the 800/810 and 100/1010, but it is a terratrac drive if I'm not mistaken. The steering mechanism is acuated via hydraulics, similar to the other bigger machines.
Do you still have your 610? If not, what did you do with it, where did it end up? I'm curious! Not many 610's out there from what I can gather.

 

[FredR]

There seems to a few 600's kicking around, but the 610 Ag model appears to be elusive. Basicaly the same machine as a 600, but the 610 has the large counterweight on the nose and a different hydraulic system. Also the 610 was painted the Flambeau red and Desert Sand, like the CASE farm tractors. 600's were yellow i believe. Same thing for the 800/810 and 1000/1010.

 

[Case Nutty 1660]

Sadly my 610 was sold one year to a custom combine crew,, it had a loader and ripper on it,, the Terratrack name means counter rotating tracks, it was a nae that ATC gave them, there used to be shows put on with 4-6 of them in a area doing all synchronized "dances' kind of like the one IH later did with Farmall's I seen a old movie of it some 50 years ago at the dealership a sales rep brought to show us,, it was really something to see, Terramatic means you have hi and lo in each track separately, I have lots of hours running many different sized Case crawlers up to a 1450, I have today 310F,350,420B and a 450 and am looking for a 1450
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[FredR]

That must have been an increadable load on the front of that crawler with a loader AND the nose counterweight!
I didn't know the counter rotation tracks were considered the "terratrac system". The decals that were on the side of the battery boxes on mine have the crest with 610 over it, similar to the 600, but it has "terramatic drive diesel" under the 610 and crest.
The 600 decals are different. Similar, but different for some reason.

 

[Case Nutty 1660]

hmm I was sure mine had 610 on the serial tag but its been 40 years since i seen it almost, maybe it was just a 600 as it was federal yellow and was a CE sold unit,, the Continental dsl sure was a great running engine,, the undercarrige was shot on it though
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[FredR]

From what I have learned from a CASE collector, who has an 810, a lot of the Ag crawlwers did not sell so the dealers painted them yellow and sold them as construction models. Mine was painted yellow, right over all the decals and everything, but under the paint it is the correct red and sand paint sceame. The Ag models have the big nose weight on them, and the hydraulic system is a single stage with only one output. The construction models 600/800/1000 had a larger pump and miltiple remotes for things like loaders and tilt dozers. My crawler had a dozer on it that has the CASE eagles on the mounting hardware. It looks to have been an optional dozer for the 610 by the way it was mounted. I have no idea of the history on mine, when the dozer was added or when it was painted yellow. It will be back to the Ag version when I'm done with the rebuild. I do have a 600 for parts and i can confirm some of the differences between the two models. There is not much different, but a few things! The nose weight being ine of them, that thing weighs abot 1800 lbs! My engine hoist was complaining taking it off!
If you GOOGLE "case 610 terramitic drive" and go to images the pictures you see there of the crawler are the pictures of mine that I took. Nothing else realy shows up.

 

[FredR]

(quoted from post at 08:40:25 04/07/19) hmm I was sure mine had 610 on the serial tag but its been 40 years since i seen it almost, maybe it was just a 600 as it was federal yellow and was a CE sold unit,, the Continental dsl sure was a great running engine,, the undercarrige was shot on it though
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Undercarrage parts are not that easy to find for the 600/610. My machine has 1200 hrs on it, but the milage from going round and round in the field wore out the undercarriage. more on the left side from making turns to the right all the time. I was able to sorce new rails and rollers and the drive sprockets are acceptable.
I guess this thread kind of got hi-jacked! I appoligise to the OP.
Fred

 

[Adirondack case guy]

My 1957 310 sn#300100 did not have the eyebrow nose, but it did have castings from ATC. I think the first eyebrow featured 310's were the 310D and was very short termed.