Cold start trick

[rapture505]

I was havig trouble starting my 9n in real cold weather 25f or below it will start and run just fine above.....so I bought a magnetic oil pan heater and stuck it to the intake manafold hoping I coul just warm up the air a little bit to get it to run....no chance.....so I slept on it for a night....I woke up this morning 5f and three foot snow drifts all over the drive.....then like light from above it hits me....so I go out grab the 'ol burns-a-matic torch and hit the intake with it 'till its nice and hot...run around turn on the gas turn on the ignition a quick pull on the choke and she comes to life! I couldn't beleive it....so I let the old girl warm up and plowed the hell out of the driveway....unfourtunatly I threw the fan belt and overheated it...bummer...and the worse part is I have a Dearborn loader on it so getting it back on will be fun but at least I figured out how to start her in this freeze zone we are having here in upstate NY....hop the tip helps out others that are having the same problem.

 

[Dunk]

(quoted from post at 22:01:04 01/03/10) I was havig trouble starting my 9n in real cold weather 25f or below it will start and run just fine above.....so I bought a magnetic oil pan heater and stuck it to the intake manafold hoping I coul just warm up the air a little bit to get it to run....no chance.....so I slept on it for a night....I woke up this morning 5f and three foot snow drifts all over the drive.....then like light from above it hits me....so I go out grab the 'ol burns-a-matic torch and hit the intake with it 'till its nice and hot...run around turn on the gas turn on the ignition a quick pull on the choke and she comes to life! I couldn't beleive it....so I let the old girl warm up and plowed the hell out of the driveway....unfourtunatly I threw the fan belt and overheated it...bummer...and the worse part is I have a Dearborn loader on it so getting it back on will be fun but at least I figured out how to start her in this freeze zone we are having here in upstate NY....hop the tip helps out others that are having the same problem.

That is what I have been sayin' a propane torch on the manifold can work wonders in very cold weather.

 

[Bob]

If you plan to be using it in cold weather save yourself the aggravation and install an engine heater in the lower radiator hose.

Also "works wonders" without all the dramatics of an open flame near the gastank/sediment bowl/carburetor.

 

[old]

To me that sounds like a big time blow up in your face type deal. All it would take is a small gas leak some place and then you have a fire on your hands and then you have a tractor that has no tires and is then only worth scrap iron. That is why they make block heaters. Open flames and gasoline do not mix well and can end up being a trip to the hospital or worse the morgue.

 

[Jack L]

Where abouts are you in Upstate Rapture? I"m in Syracuse. My tractors (2) are at my camp where they are under tarps and there"s no electricity. Fortunately they start good regardless of temperature but they require the choke to be used differently.

I will keep your hint in mind if they fail to do so.

Jack

 

[Jim in Ma.]

Another way - I use a electric heat gun "looks line a hair drier" but hotter. Works for me.

 

[JW Axtell]

Upstate NY also. Oneonta area.
Today I just stayed indoors and waited until tonight's expected 5-6 inches of more snow and 5 deg weather. But tomorrow I have to go out and try to start my NAA to clear my 500 ft drive.
Two days ago I asked this forum if anyone's had any experience attaching a magnetic block heater to the intake manifold. To me it seemed that it would be very inefficient due to all the curves and bumps not allowing good metal to metl contact. Anyway nobody answered until you.
So I think I will go with your plan. However, I will use a heat gun instead. How long did you heat it with your torch?

 

[Ian074]

(quoted from post at 08:25:44 01/04/10) If you plan to be using it in cold weather save yourself the aggravation and install an engine heater in the lower radiator hose.

Also "works wonders" without all the dramatics of an open flame near the gastank/sediment bowl/carburetor.

I have a heater in the lower hose of my Jubilee but my carb still freezes up below15 degrees F. Been using a heat lamp on it but a heat gun might work better.

 

[Jimmyjack]

I agree, works for me on three different tractors, and I put the magnetic heaters on the hydraulic tank to speed it up a bit.

 

[Jimmyjack]

You hit the nail on the head! You might get by once or twice, but the next time you might be history.

 

[Bob]

You mean the carb is frozen up BEFORE you start it and you need to thaw it out or AFTER you start it... what do you do, drag a long cord around to power the hair dryer while using the tractor???

 

[old]

The best set up is a block heater but they do not work on the N series because of a room factor but a heater in the lower rad. hose works very well and keep the WHOLE engine warm not just one single part of it. Add some sort of cover over the hood/engine and you have a warm engine and no problems in cold weather. Look at all the over the road trucks and how they have been set up for decades as in 40 plus year. Shoot even my 1963 Diamond-T had a block heater in it and it would start every day as long as it was plugged in

 

[Ian074]

(quoted from post at 10:41:50 01/04/10) You mean the carb is frozen up BEFORE you start it and you need to thaw it out or AFTER you start it... what do you do, drag a long cord around to power the hair dryer while using the tractor???

No. Where did I say the tractor started? What I said was that even though I have a heater in the lower hose I still have to heat the manifold on very cold days. Tractor Guru or not Maybe before posting back with wise-a** or belittling replies you should read and understand the post

 

[JMOR]

(quoted from post at 01:58:41 01/04/10)

(quoted from post at 10:41:50 01/04/10) You mean the carb is frozen up BEFORE you start it and you need to thaw it out or AFTER you start it... what do you do, drag a long cord around to power the hair dryer while using the tractor???

No. Where did I say the tractor started? What I said was that even though I have a heater in the lower hose I still have to heat the manifold on very cold days. Tractor Guru or not Maybe before posting back with wise-a** or belittling replies you should read and understand the post

I will let Bob speak for himself, but what I saw was, "I have a heater in the lower hose of my Jubilee but my carb still freezes up below15 degrees F", that got my & probably Bob's attention. If it didn't start, what was there to freeze? Got water in your fuel? I don't think he understood & neither do I.
I for one am not belittling or being a wise-a**, just plain don't understand what you are trying to say. Please enlighten.

 

[Darby Creek]

I don't know why everybody can't just try to get along.I'm scared now and will remain inside until warm weather.

 

[JW Axtell]

(quoted from post at 06:57:04 01/04/10) I don't know why everybody can't just try to get along.I'm scared now and will remain inside until warm weather.

Oh oh. Only early January and cabin fever has started to settle in. Testiness, intolerance and paranoia. Not me though. My Golden Retriever just told me I would be okay but just in case I should go clean my guns.

 

[cadiddle]

JW,
I got a place down back river rd. in otego. Keep my 8n in an unheated pole barn - no electric. I use one of those catalytic heaters you put on a 20lb. propane tank and aim it at the tractor for a while with a canvas tarp up on one side to trap the heat. Seems to work, you have to keep it going for a bit and unless its REALLY snotty it works. Just need to start an hour or two before you need the tractor. When its really beligerent that plus a squirt of ether does the trick.

 

[Anonymous-0]

I have a Model T carburator the has a heating coil just ahead of the throttle plate.Looks like some one started working on the problem as early as 1908.My dad used a dish pan full of hot coals under his 34 Ford.Later on he used a kerosene heater under hood along with a blanket over the hood.