D17 series 2 and 3 diffrences

BANDITFARMER

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I have a D17 ser# 44000 series 2 that has alot of odd things about it. Head lights by grill, Aliumin name plates, ovel muffler, WD style steering wheel, series 3 seat, And a 2 line one way cylinder outlet. This is a high clearance model D17 and I have never seen an hydrolic system like this one has got on it. Dose anyone have a picture of a series 2 and 3 or know what the diffrences are between them. I think Ive got a misfit AC. Pics arnt the best but you can see about the hydrolics lines and the other little things on this tractor. Anything you-all could tell me about this D17 little querks would be appreciated. Bandit
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Series 2: headlights on front, round muffler, oil bath air filter
Series 3: headlights on fenders, oval muffler, dry air filter, taller fenders, decals form a continuous stripe
That SN makes it a 62 model. That would be a series 2. Looks like you have a series 2 with series 3 hood or someone has cut the hole out larger. The seat is correct I think. The outlet is called a transport valve. Turn the knob under the coupler one way or the other to raise or lower a pull type implement.
 
Series III production began in late 1962 with SN42001. So if the SN is 44000 it is a Series III. From your pictures the wide front is a Series III and the rear of seat mounted worklight a Series III. Oval muffler is a Series III. Does the right side of the torque tube have a hydraulic oil fill point near the belt pulley cover plate? If NOT, that also confirms a Series III.

Someone has put earlier D17 sheet metal on your Series III tractor and moved the oil bath air cleaner to match and cut the hood to fit the larger oval muffler. Mike
 
My mistake, I thought the series 3 came out in 63. As he said you have a series 3 with some things from a series 2 or possibly 1/2 of a series 2 and 1/2 of a series 3 put together.
 
The two line single coupler hyd setup is correct for the transport valve. When using a pull-type implement, like a disc, unscrew the valve...ie, towards the implement. When using a mounted implement- screw it all the way in. In neither position it does not stop oil flow.
 
The hood has a stamped out oval smooth top with a lip on the under side, and the name plates still have the alumiun ribets holding them on. It dose have an hydrolic oil fill near the belt pulley. As far as the air cleaner it looks its original. I have owned several D17s and this one is diffrent from the rest. Bandit
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I see the hydraulic oil fill on the right torque tube...and NO hydraulic oil filter which was introduced on the Series III as SN42001. Are you sure the SN is 44000???? (no insult intended - some can be very hard to read). Looking more the steering wheel also is the old design. Does the engine have the bypass oil filter or the full-flow oil filter? The grill is also an early Series I design with the cross-hatch pattern with no-bars though I thought those early tractors had orange grills. Metal name-plates were series II 32001 up to 42000). Also the apparent factory stamping for the hood is odd...anyone know if a Series III or IV left hood will pop on an earlier tractor and have the oil cleaner line up in the same hole? Either someone did a good job with expanding the hood or someone moved the metal nameplates? Wow - lots of mystery here. Mike
 
Thats why I had to have it, its an odd ball. I have had several people who have looked it and scrached there heads and said the same thing, I have never seen one like this! The fact that its a high clearance modle makes it odder. I think theses were started on seriels 3 but not sure. The earley high crops were Thompson coversions and AC first high clearance was the series 3 I think. These high clearance modles are hard to find information on, No numbers built or ser# or series that I can find. Somebody out there must know something about these AC tractors, I sure cant find the information. Bandit
 
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