Disc too heavy for 9N

Tim, MI

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My father in law got me a great deal on the 2 bottom plow and the disc. I didn't realize just how fun it would be backing all this weight off the trailer (sad to say I was watching the disc wondering why it wasn't lifting) Anyway, the question is, while driving in the feild with the disc the front end will start to hover over bumps. Any ideas? should I remove the rear set of discs of add weight to the front of tractor? any idea as to how much weight would be needed(obviously enough to keep the front down)? Also does anybody recognize the plow? I cant find any markings in all the rust, but would like to know more about operation.
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My 2N is light in the nose when my tandem disc is on the back.. but it works good when using it...

May we presume the plow is OFF the top of the disk when you're driving in the field???

Having a light front end is kinda like having power steering...

duey
 
Take the plow off and you should have no problem with the disk. A plow like that can be around 500 lbs by its self and then with it sitting on the disk at around 500-700 lbs its to much. I have a disk sort of like that and it has a 300lbs weight on it and my 8N and 9N have no problems with it but I did have to remove the 300 lbs rock I had in the disk or the 9N and 8N would do a wheel stand. On my 841 it was no problem but it also has a loader on it. Wieghts I gave at ruff guess to ments
Hobby farm
 
Adding weight to the front is the obvious answer, but what is the best way to go about adding it. I know I've seen front tire wheel weights advertised, of course shipping can add up if not local, and my wheels are not OEM and would not accept the weights. So what is the most economical method of adding weight???
 
The plow was only on to transport, had to get creative with loading trailer, running out of space. But with just the disc the front end gets real lite. The problem I'm going to run into is when I take the tractor on the road to the feild I need to work wich is about 4 miles away with a rather steep dip down and up from the creek.
 
If it frets ya add weight to the front by any means. That disc looks just rite for a N. If it did not tote the front just a little as you say it will not do a good job disc'kin.

"hover over bumps" just the way i like'em

I don't have to cross any creaks tho

If you have a front bumper stop by and i will give ya a hundred pounds or so of weight. I take tips tho.

I use brake rotors check with local shops they may give'em to ya just to haul'em off. or offer a $5.00 tip for a 10 or 20 of'em.


Pix, this disc will tote the front end, with the weight cuts good, with out mite scratch the ground.
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This is a dearborn disc made for a N, will sorta tote the tires, needs no weight less I was crossing creeks. This disc will do the job just rite for a N, no weights needed on the disc. Notice the difference in the tires on the 2 N's, I hate the big'ns, 12.4's are 2 big for a N, will stall the tractor. 11.2s are a perfect match.
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As said, add just enough weight to the front to be able to steer at a reasonable speed and radius with the disc lifted. Use liquid in the tires and/or wheel weights instead of bumper weight to help with steering wear issues. THEN, practice turning with your BRAKES at the end of the field while the disc is down. Caution. Turning too tight with too deep of a bite can result in learning how to weld lift arms and replacing check chains.
 
Tim,
Nice looking tools you bought.
One thing I learned with my 2N was that the front wheels only lift untill the disc sits back down on the ground.
Feels shakey with the front up but you really aren't in much danger of going over backwards.
Your lift must be working good.
 
personally i would not swet the front end being light. That was a way of life for years when I grew up on the 2 N. If the brakes work, they will assist in the steering. Also with a little time you will get the feel of it and keep the right hand on the lift lever when on inclines since lowering the disc a little will help get the front down. Our 2N spent a lot of time walking around on its hind legs.
 
I've used an old 8' Dunham disc tandem converted to 3 point for many years on my 2N. I very accurately estimate the weight at 800# at least. My tractor has always lifted, pulled and handled it very well. My bumper weighs 100# and the front end only leaves the ground if I head up a rather steep grade. If your tractor and hydraulics are working as they should, you should easily handle the disc shown in picture. If I was computer literate enough, I'd transfer a vidio of me discing on a hillside with this tractor and disc, to this reply, just to prove that I'm giving you accurate info.
 
I've always ran loaded, 12.4's on my 2N and it handles them fine. I can pull 2/3 of a cord of oak on my trailer with it up a slight to medium grade with it in 3rd gear in Sherman high range. I'd put you a vidio on of this, if I knew how to transfer it from my album to this post.
 
Drop a 2 bottom plow in the ground then report back. My 12.4's have to much bite are changed the gear ratio to the point i have to use a lower gear when really put'n it to work. my 11.2's will pull circles around he 12.4's, not put the engine in a bind like the 12.4's. My tractors actually are put to work hard, they mite git lazy on me if I let'em roll trailers around, He he
 
I would think your N will lift the disc once the plow 'attachment' is removed.

You can always add weight to the front.

I lift an old ford dual ganged disc with my 8n. it's quite a load.. and I guess 800# or so.. but the N pics here up and can still steer ok. I have a oem style front bumper on her.. etc.

Soundguy
 
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