Dorset 363

[quasistatic]

Anyone ever install the Dorset 363 diesel engine in a Ford 6000 to replace the 242?

Why the Dorset 363 and not the Dorset 330 as both are straight 6 engines? The Dorset 330 (Ford 2703E) would have less horsepower (85.5 bhp vs. 96.5 bhp @ 2500 rpm) and therefore be a better match to the OEM Ford 242 straight 6 engine (~66.9 pto hp @ 2430 rpm) found in the Ford 6000 tractors. Or are you aware of reasons making the installation of the 363 advantageous to the Dorset 330?

 

[quasistatic]

I’m probably who he’s thinking of in Missouri. My brother had a 6000 with a 363 him, our dad and I put in it. He used it for tractor pulling only. It ran very well and held up just fine. We made our own adapter plate to bolt the engine to the transmission and had the input shaft of the transmission lengthened to couple to a splined piece we had made that bolted to the flywheel. Since he was only pulling it we didn’t have hydraulics. That would be a little challenging to make work like the original 6000 hydraulics but it could be done. With no hydraulics it took some different attempts to make brakes work but I finally found a way to make them work thanks to some help from a long time 6000 puller in Wisconsin. It was a unique and very impressive running tractor. He sold it recently to a guy in Southern Illinois.

Thank you for the information, most valuable. Apart from the transmission connection which doesn't seem too difficult you mention that connecting the hydraulic pump would be "a little challenging". I'm wondering why this would be as the hydraulic pump on the Ford 6000 couples to the crankshaft pulley via a small 2-bolt coupler, even if it needed to be repositioned it doesn't seem to me that it would be that difficult. Or are you referring to the power steering pump? Were you able to connect the power steering pump without issues?

Apart from the above, is everything else essentially the same? Engine block to frame bolt locations? External components? Thank you!

 

[agjim]

Why not look into the Cummins B series repower like some other makes are doing now, 4BT 3.9 or 6B 5.9 ..

I did a little figuring on putting a B Cummins in a 6000. My best plan was to tilt the engine slightly to the right to have room to get the starter between the engine block and the side rale. I did not want to alter the side rail. The 4 B or 4 BT will have as much or more power than the original 6000 engine. The 4 B is shorter than the 6000 engine so you could connect the crankshaft to the hyd. pump with a shaft. The 6 B is too long to fit without moving the hyd. pump and unload valve and possibly altering the hyd. lines. In my opinion the 4 B would be easier and will have an abundance of power. The 4 BT is rated at 100+

 

[D pilgrim]

I have two 6000 242 diesel engines here that would need gone through, at least there's no block rod ventilation holes in them.

I’m looking for a 242 ford Diesel engine for a friend who races a 61 ford pick up on the Bonneville salt flats (gas) he plans to switch to diesel and run for a world record in the D/T class ( diesel truck) any help would be greatly appreciated

 

[bb56]

The 363 was used in Ford 630 combine made by claas.

 

[D pilgrim]

I’m looking for a 242 ford Diesel engine for a friend who races a 61 ford pick up on the Bonneville salt flats (gas) he plans to switch to diesel and run for a world record in the D/T class ( diesel truck) any help would be greatly appreciated

Diesel tech, can you give me a price on the motors and details etc ?

 

[Majorman]

My understanding is that there are two sizes; of the Ford 2701 engine, the Lehman 80 (4D254 or Ford 2701C) and the Lehman 70 (4D242 or Ford 2701E). Both of these are 4 cylinder engines rather than 6 cylinders. So I believe it is the Ford 2701E that has a displacement equal to the Ford 6000 tractor engine but is a 4 cylinder rather than the needed 6 cylinders.

The Ford Industrial Series are 2701 and 2711 4 cylinder, 2703, 2704, 2713, 2714, 2715 all six cylinder. There are others that I have not listed and others have turbochargers. They were used in County, MuirHill, Roadless, Claas and New Holland tractors and combines.