Double row planting

neverfear

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South Central MN
OK, small time guy here with a question.
I run a small plot of land as a hobby but still like to see results for my effort.
I planted corn this year and because of the irregular shape of the field I overlapped a few rows with the planter when I came to the end of the field.
To my surprise these double planted rows had just as healthy plants and no noticeable difference in yield.
My question is has anyone else tried this on a larger scale and what were your results?
I am thinking of setting up a 12' drill to plant 4 double rows about 2" apart on 38" rows.
Any feedback is welcome.
Thanks
 
You are right kindof. If your ground is capable of 200bu, 20in rows are about right. There is quite a few farmers in the Midwest trying exactly that. Two rows 6in apart on 38in centers. The jury is still out. 30in corn planted with a Maxa-merge type planter is quite good, seed placement is critical. They all need to come up the same day, probably 95 percent of corn in the US is planted that way. Knifing in your Nitrogen is important!
 
I plant 30 in centers with twin rows 7 inches apart.I love it corn stands better as do beans.This method uses more square inches of your ground
 
As the others say, twin row planter is getting popular in some areas. Neighbor been doing it for 4 years or so now, I think it has a lit to offer. A good spacing is about 7 inches, allows the corn to form root balls away from each other, but can still pull in the pair of rows with a normal 30 inch header.

If you currently plant at 33,000 plants on 30 inch, you can bump that up 10-15% on twin rows and still use your 30 inch harvest equipment. Yields should go up, if you up fertilizer & so forth. You can't double your seeding rate, but you can up it a bit.

Now, you said you want to set up a dril - grain drill - to do this. That won't pay. You got to get good at growing high yield corn first, and them push a little more with twin row. Corn needs to be planted. Agrain drill spills seed. You won't get good seed depth and even spacing with a grain drill, so you won't get a good twin row effect with a grain drill.

You need to use the corn planter, offset the hitch 3.5 inches on your tractor, set the seed rate to 55% of normal corn rate, and double back on the same rows, you'll have your 7 inch offset. Could be tough if you have starter fertilizer disks tho.

Perhaps I misunderstood.

--->Paul
 
Thanks for the input so far.
Again I'm small time with ancient equipment.
My corn planter is a JD 494. Other than adding offset units behind the current ones how could accurate double row planting be achieved?
Paul, You said ofset the hitch one way 3.5"? so if I'm following what you're saying you offset the other way on the next pass and follow the same tracks?
 
twin row planters dont put two rows identical to each other. I think the key is the staggering effect. This way there is no need to use more seed or fertilizer, but the plants can draw more sunlight and nutrients due to less competition.
 
Offset the hitch, plant down the field to the north, your rows will be 3.5 inches offset to the west.

Turn around at the end, come back in the same wheel tracks driving south, and now the rows will be offset 3.5 inches to the east.

This will give you a 7 inch spacing between the rows, centered on the normal 30 inch (or even 38 inch, whatever your planter is at) spacing.

If you have straight rows, it is pretty easy to duplicate the wheel tracks the 2nd pass and come out pretty good. But no, not always a perfect deal, I understand.

As of 5-6 years ago, the twin row planters were not indexed to each other, they did not stagger the seed drop in a zigzag. Great Plains rep said in tests it was not important, just the 7 inch spacing gave the corn roots more room. Actually if you understood what he was saying, they hadn't figured out a way to make the perfect stagger. ;)

Any time you increase the spacing between corn plants - going from 40 to 30 to 20 to 15 inch rows - you can then increase the planting population a tad, and increase yields. Those increased yields need more fertilizer tho. Dad used to plant 18,000 population on 40 inch rows. I am trying 35,000 on 38 inch rows which is heavy; I understand those on 22/20 or 26 inch rows are near 40,000 population.

Anyhow, that is how it works here in normally water-rich southern MN.

Corn doesn't like shade when it is small, at that 4-5 leaf stage as it sits and builds it's root system. Weeds or other corn next to a plant of a taller height messes up that important growing period, the corn will abandon it's root building and try to grow taller, which makes for a poor corn plant the whole rest of the season.

This is why very accurate seeding depth, and good placement of one seed to the next will - in theory - help final yields. If one plant is shallow, another is deep, one comes up early and the later one to emerge will never amount to it's full potential, it will feel crowded and shaded by the older plant.

Likewise, corn planted in clumps with bigger gaps between them will struggle to dominate each other rather than focus on growing their best root system and reach best potential yield.

A corn planter with a good seed placement system - like a 7000, or a Case 900 or newer - will do a lot more for you as they can be set to do really good seed placement.

After that, if you can spread out the plants so they have more available area to draw nutrients from - as 15 or 20 inch or twin row setups do - then that too will increase yield.

I'd work on the better planter first I guiess, from what you say you have available. Better depth control on planting corn with a finger meter made a heck of a difference for me.

Twin row is interesting, but I don't think the results from a grain drill will be worth bothering with - seed depth and seed to seed placement will be more important than 'just getting any old planting system' to make twin rows 6-7 inches apart... You will lose more from the poor seed placement than you will gain from the twin rows.

Then of course we try for perfection, and monther nature messes us up with a flood or drought or both. :) Ah, farming. :)

I like this discussion, and your thinking on twin rows. But I don't think there is a cheap way to do it well, and if it's not done well, it's probably not worth doing. Effort is better spent on getting the other things up to par to start with.

Again, what I see for my micro region 'here'. Other climates/ locations can be quite different, and what I do or see could fail miserably 'there'.

--->Paul
 
Well that's alot to chew on right there! Thanks for the info and opinions.
I think I'm going to try it on at least part of the field next year,see if I can drop the population rate a little, use paul's offset hitch idea and see what happens.
I am in central MN so look for pictures here next...May/June? I hope?!
Thanks again and if anyone else has anything to add, keep the thread going.
 
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