Farmall

[Anonymous-0]

Hello, I recently inherited a 1954 Farmall A (although the Title says "Super A", but I"m not sure how to tell the difference), that looks like it"s going to need the engine rebuilt.
It"s in pretty bad shape, but I"m going to restore it. The engine block had water in it, so I"m going to need to have it rebuilt. I"ve called a few places, and they all ask for the name of the motor. There is a Motor number that starts with "FAAM", so would this be the motor name? Thanks in advance

 

[ScottyHOMeY]

If you found this number on the engine block, just above the front-most plug, yes, that's the numner they'll need.

If it's a '54 it will be a SuperA.

Title on a tractor, eh? Where are you?

 

[Red Dave]

Yes, the number on the block that starts with "FAAM" is the engine serial number. It will not be the same as the Tractor serial number, but it will be close enough to determine what parts it needs. "FAAM" is the prefix that IH used for Super A engines. As for the "Name of the motor" it is an International Harvester C-113 model engine on a Farmall Super A. If that doesn't mean anything to the shop you are talking to, talk to another shop. All the wear parts are available for purchase at Case/IH dealers, aftermarket tractor parts dealers and many NAPA auto parts places.

 

[El Toro]

Those engines are very easy to work on and you can do that engine job yourself. Take a lot of pictures and make a lot of sketches and notes when tearing the engine down. They will help when you do the engine assembly. Get yourself a good shop manual too. Have the block degreased,
the cylinder head magnafluxed and have new springs, valves, and guides installed if it needs
it. You need to have the crankshaft checked for wear by your auto machine shop too. They can supply the new bearings. It may only need to be polished unless it is worn beyond specs and needs to be ground undersize. They can get them too.

Your sleeve and piston kit can be purchased here on this forum, but they will need the serial number of the tractor to get the correct kit. You could have the C123 engine with 3-1/8" pistons, but you can use 3-1/4" sleeve kit if it does. Does it have a water pump? Hal

 

[Anonymous-0]

Thanks for the replies, learning alot of useful information here.
I'm located in South Jersey. I inherited the Tractor from my In-Laws, they still had all the paperwork.
I believe the Tractor does have a water pump. Also, what is the difference between a "A" model, and a "Super A"?

 

[VPC1]

(quoted from post at 23:29:24 10/31/07) Yes, the number on the block that starts with "FAAM" is the engine serial number. It will not be the same as the Tractor serial number, but it will be close enough to determine what parts it needs. "FAAM" is the prefix that IH used for Super A engines. As for the "Name of the motor" it is an International Harvester C-113 model engine on a Farmall Super A. If that doesn't mean anything to the shop you are talking to, talk to another shop. All the wear parts are available for purchase at Case/IH dealers, aftermarket tractor parts dealers and many NAPA auto parts places.

Just wondering where I might get a listing of the prefix letters as you have stated in this post? I think mine are IAAM.

 

[flashback]

a Super A is basically a dressed up A and has hydraulics. The engine and all other parts are basically the same. some of the Super A's have water pumps where an A use a thermosiphon system without a water pump. Some super A's have a 123 ci engine where A's have a 113 unless its has been rebuilt and used the new liner which would then make it a 123 A;ll super A's are electric where few A's are. Most A's have been converted to electric start. REMEMBER THAT ALL SIX VOLT s
SUPER A'S ARE POSITIVE GROUND IF THEY HAVE A GENERATOR. The ones converted to 12 volt have a 12 volt geneerator or an alternator. Does any of this make any sense or help you along? I suggest you buy a partrs manual from external_link for a Super A. Also, a shop manual. All the parts needed can be purchase right here from YT. Go to Tractor Parts on the left hand side of this page and start looking. Have fun.

 

[Anonymous-0]

Thanks for all the input everyone, this has definetely been a help. The tractor has hydraulics and a water pump, so it is a "Super A". I'll probably be back with more questions and hopefully some pictures as I go along.

 

[Hugh MacKay]

Greg: Block part number is what you need when ordering a piston and sleeve kit. From what the other respondants revealed it's 54 Super A and if original engine, should have block part number 354898 R1 or R2, most likely R2. You will find an assortment of different kits will fit that block, all the way from 3" bore to 3-1/8" and 3-1/4". Which one is best, I'm not sure, I've always stuck with factory specs myself.

 

[Red Dave]

"International Harvester Tractor Data Book" by Guy Fay. Published by Motorbooks International

 

[Hugh MacKay]

Greg: For the most part these guys fed you some hogwash. By 1954 Farmall Super A engine and tractor serial number will be 2000 or more apart. The tractor could well have had a water pump from the day it was new. How much above the hydraulic unit is the fuel tank? Does the engine block have a cast in place C-123, about 3/4" high digets? My thoughts are your tractor could be a Super A1 as in (one) Quite a rare Farmall, only 1,957 units were built. Basically a Farmall 100 in SA sheet metal.

What are the casting date codes on engine block, torque tube, transmission-rear end and hydraulic unit. Casting date codes are cast in place 3/8" high digets and are day and month by number and year by letter with what looks like a round head, blade type screw cast between each of day, month and year. The letter Y is 1953, Z is 1954, A is 1955.

 

[Anonymous-0]

Hugh, I'll have to check those digits. The serial numbers that started with "FAAM" were on the title- there is one for the tractor itself, and one for the motor, but I'll compare them to whats on the engine block.
The Hydraulic unit sits directly below the fuel tank. The decals are pretty worn, but I can see part of an "A" on the outside panels, so I was confused because the title says "Super A".
I'll let you know what I find, and thanks again..

 

[Hugh MacKay]

Greg: What is the tractor serial number on tractor or title. I know most of these guys laugh about having a title for tractor, however I grew up in a jurisdiction that issued DOT titles for tractors. (No expiry) They can laugh all they want, we never had stolen tractors, in our land.

If your serial number is between 357001 and 357958, you have a Farmall Super A1. Quite rare for a Farmall. If you consider that in that era, IH were shipping Super A1's all over US, Canada, Europe and Austrailia, probably less than 4 Super A1 in any given State or Province. Look after it well, if that is what you have. If you ever think you want to sell, e mail me.