Ford 1720 injector pump

[jokers]

In the earlier thread regarding slow hydraulics on a Ford 1700 mention was made of adding a few ounces of oil to the injector pump. I`m not at all familiar with a model 1700, is this just a generic reference to the 1700 series, ie; 1710, 1715, 1720?

The reason I ask is that my 1720 with almost 1900hrs on it has not had oil added to the injector pump and I don`t recall seeing anything about that in the manual, although admittedly it has been a long time since I looked in the manual. Does anyone know if this info applies to my tractor?

 

[chrisalma]

It doesnt apply. Your pump is lubed by the engine oil pump. Now the ford 8000 and 9000 tractors had independant lube in the injection pump which needed changed when engine oil was changed. That was late 60s to 70s so it might be true on the 1700.

 

[jokers]

Thanks chrisalma!

 

[Anonymous-0]

one of the dealers i talked to said the later 1700's and the 1710 and 1720 should have engine oil lines running to the pump,but as I said I dont have a lot of faith in what they were telling me,they seemed unsure.Bill M.

 

[c65truck]

I bought a new 1700 in 1978 when they first came out. In the operator's manual it said to change the oil in the injector pump when you change oil in the tractor. It is a good tractor or at least mine has been.

 

[DAN9-Midwest]

Read the owner's manual.

You don't change the oil in the pump, just add a few ounces when you change the oil or every 100 hours. This engine is not mechanically related to the larger Ford engines such as as the 8000 or 9000 but rather a small Japanese-made engine. I remember they all seemed the same.

Don't lose the copper gasket when you add the oil and make a small paper funnel to get the oil in the small hole. The wrench size is whatever 11/16 is in metric.
Read the owner's manual

 

[jokers]

Now Dan9-Midwest, I appreciate the fact that you made the effort to provide me with any info at all, even if it doesn`t apply to my tractor as you so aptly stated when you noted that it is not related to the 8000 or 9000, and that in fact my Ford/Shibura tractor has a small Japanese engine, but didn`t it occur to you that a normal person would not expose themselves to unnecessary internet sniping by asking a question that could easily be answered by reading the manual?

I would not have put myself in that position without a good reason, the first being that I did read the manual and did not recall ever seeing this procedure mentioned, second, I was at work when I posted, thus the manual was not at my fingertips for my review, and third, when I got home and read pages 30-52 of the factory manual, the Lubrication and Maintenance section, found that not only is it not mentioned, it`s not even alluded to nor is there a capacity listed for the injector pump lubricant as there is for every other fluid in this machine.

Thanks again for the help............and the dose of attitude you tried to dump on me. In the end though you only made yourself look stupid, or crabby at best.

 

[jokers]

Bill,

I`m going to have to believe that the injector pump is lubed by the engine oil pump until proven wrong. The manual lists no capacity or specification for injector pump lube, I just reread it front to back.

Thanks for your input.

 

[jokers]

((knocking on my wooden head as I say this))

My 1720 has been the definition of reliability in the 1900hrs it`s seen so far and I`ve worked the crap out of it for it being such a small machine. I realize that 1900hrs isn`t even broken in to many of you guys, just stating that I couldn`t be more pleased with the durability of this tractor.

 

[RodinNS]

It's been a number of years since I looked at a 1720, but as I recall the pumping units on those tractors were built directly into the engine block. If it wasn't on the 20 series it certainly was on the early Boomers and all current ISM/NH/Perkapillar japanese engines in that series.

Far as I know there is no oil to change in the Kiki pumps anyway.... but checking the appropriate owners manual would be the best idea.

Rod

 

[c65truck]

jokers my operator's manual says to change the injection pump oil every 200 hours it is on page 28 but my tractor was one of the first 1700 in arkansas it was brought in for a farm show so if it doesnt show it in the manual you have I like you would assume ford changed it so you didnt have to change the oil in the pump I always thought changing the oil in the injection pump was scary it would be the one thing someone who didn't read the operator's manual would miss

 

[RickB]

Your manual doesn"t mention lubing the injection pump because the is not required. The pumps on 1700's and 1710's are of a different configuration.

 

[chrisalma]

i didnt say that they were the same as a 8 or 9000 just built around the same time as a 1700