Ford 5000

[OHBILL]

Ford 5000 diesel was loseing power, almost dying while tedding. Dual fuel filter system. Pulled the 1st and found it had a bunch of crud in it; 2nd filter had none. Installed 2 new same model filters. Now I'm finding I cannot get fuel from the 1st to the 2nd. 1st has fuel; 2nd bone dry. Any ideas?

 

[Jim.ME]

Ford 5000 diesel was loseing power, almost dying while tedding. Dual fuel filter system. Pulled the 1st and found it had a bunch of crud in it; 2nd filter had none. Installed 2 new same model filters. Now I'm finding I cannot get fuel from the 1st to the 2nd. 1st has fuel; 2nd bone dry. Any ideas?

What brand filters? If the WIX type check to see that the seal is not inside the rim and covering the fuel slots.

 

[OHBILL]

Jim. This is the Amazon style filter I've been using for the past couple years. .Had problem with wix so switched to this style

 

[Jim.ME]

Jim. This is the Amazon style filter I've been using for the past couple years. .Had problem with wix so switched to this styleView attachment 165519

Ok that seal won't be the issue with those filters.

 

[Destroked 450]

Did you operate the hand primer to see if it would send fuel to the second filter

 

[Dieseltech]

Which injection pump? Early inline has a feed pump on the side of the injection pump. Late models have the CAV DPA rotary pump that's GRAVITY fed, no hand primer like the early models have. Also sometimes the engine needs turned a bit so the hand primer will work, it WON'T work when the cam lever stops and holds up the lever inside the injection pump.

 

[paul]

My 5200 needs at least a half full fuel tank to gravity feed through the filters, and then open, well loosen, a line close to the injector pump to bleed fuel through the filters and near to the injector.

Paul

 

[OHBILL]

Thanks for your input. This is a engine out of a 5610 that I added 20 years ago with I believe a Simms pump. Stupidly I had not tried adding more fuel, Did so last night and gravity did its job. But that brought about another problem as it is acting like its starving for fuel when you tooggle above 1000 rpm and then engine dies. Hand prime it untill you feel pressure against your hand and she will start back up. Any suggestions on this?

 

[Dieseltech]

Simms inline system uses a feed pump. How is the gravity flow out the tank TOO the feed pump inlet for five minutes? If it's not steady there may be a tank/outlet valve problem. Feed pump MIGHT need replaced to if the valves inside have failed. Check for a supply restriction first.

 

[OHBILL]

Simms inline system uses a feed pump. How is the gravity flow out the tank TOO the feed pump inlet for five minutes? If it's not steady there may be a tank/outlet valve problem. Feed pump MIGHT need replaced to if the valves inside have failed. Check for a supply restriction first.

Supply restricton. thanks DT

 

[sotxbill]

Supply restricton. thanks DT

Since you had crud stop the first filter, I would suspect that the tank needs to be flushed and crud removed or it will keep on stalling. You may then have to blow free all lines, and the port between the two filters to make things full flow again. When I blow backwards into the tank, I end up blowing off the safety screen on the tank valve, making things more interesting. Had a superdexta that actaully had a blob of grey goo floating in the tank and would randomly suck down and stop the tractor. Let it set and the blob would float off again, and rebleed, and run for any specific time period you can think of, months to seconds and then repeat.... I drained the tank, shined a flash light into the tank...and fished the blob out of the tank with a coathanger wire. Then there was the 7710 that any time you got the tank low, it would fill the first filter up with a red sand looking stuff. Answer is,, dont run it low on fuel. I have many others,, stop by next week... sha ding!