Ford 8n sputters

[Anonymous-0]

I have a ford 8n and just bought a 7 tine
cultivator. I went and scraped around in the neibors
wheat stubble. When I had the tines in I kept the
rpm's up but it still sputtered. I dont think it was
to much for the tractor. Are there reasons why it
might be doing this?

 

[Bruce (VA)]

When you ask a question here, it’s always important to tell us:

1. The model of your tractor (2N, 9N, 8N, NAA, etc).

2. If it is 6v or 12v.

3. If it’s an N, if the distributor is on the front or side of the engine.

4. If it has any major parts that are not OEM, such as electronic ignition, an in-line fuel filter, a Zenith carb, an 8v battery, a side coil on a front distributor, etc.

5. When was last time you tuned it (points, plugs, condenser, rotor, cap, set the timing & adjusted the carb)?

Troubleshooting is different depending on the model of the tractor, voltage, ignition system & distributor placement & the absence of OEM parts as well as your attention to routine maintenance.
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[elmersooner]

(quoted from post at 18:21:16 08/11/11) I have a ford 8n and just bought a 7 tine
cultivator. I went and scraped around in the neibors
wheat stubble. When I had the tines in I kept the
rpm's up but it still sputtered. I dont think it was
to much for the tractor. Are there reasons why it
might be doing this?

might need tune up, points dressed, rotten fuel, ignition switch, carb, dirty air cleaner, cracked distrib, water in fuel, bad connection somewheres, moisture in cap, low battery, charging issues. coil having issues, etc...helps if we know what equipment you have on it as Bruce (VA) says. if we know what you have and when it is happening there is a step by step process to hunting down the bugs to get you back running.

 

[Dell (WA)]

Carl........it could be weak sparkies, (and alotta things cause weak sparkies) ...or... it could be a too-lean mainjet on yer carb. Try the simple things first. ENRICH yer down-pointing main-jet 1/2-turn CCW. Enny improvement??? You should NOT haffta enrich yer down-pointing mainjet more than 3-turns total. You can count turns can't you? .......Dell, yer self-appointed sparkie-meister.

 

[MO8N4ME]

Talk about yer “Smackdown”

You have a guest who asks a pretty generalized question, maybe not know’n how to state it. Then the 3 of you start beat’n up on him like he just stole your horses. What do you have 32 thousand 33 thousand posts between the 3 of you? Sheeze, lighten up! And if that’s to much to ask, if you see a thread started by MO8N4ME, you needn’t reply!

 

[Bruce (VA)]

Smackdown?

No, not at all.

A smackdown is when I tell you that you don't know jack spit about fixing a tractor if you are offer a reply w/o having the basic information to accurately answer the question.

The 3 of us politely asking him to state the basics is just simple common sense which seems to be lacking in your post.

Go ahead, answer his question.

The link below is a classic example as to why it is important to always ask for the basic info BEFORE you tell someone how to fix a problem. Here you can see that three people asked for the basic info (6v or 12v, front or side distributor) while one mind reader tells us that “It's obvious to most of us on this website that you have a front mount 8N” So, he proceeds to explain how to check the points w/ this bit of advice: “check for continuity through your points with a meter, just take the dist out of the tractor and do it on the bench….” Which is exactly what you better not do if it is a sidemount distributor. Which, as it turns out, it was.
6v or 12v?

 

[elmersooner]

???????????? did you actually read the posts? asking for specific info willsave him time frustration and money.....kinda like going to the dr and saying I don't feel good.....the dr will ask more questions---unfortunately my crystal ball ain't workin today....as far as the not answering your posts----okay.

 

[MO8N4ME]

I know I’m spitt’n into a fan go’n up against the “GURU’s” here, but I’m going to try this anyway. You know in your heart of hearts the information you wanted from him and the way you listed it was to make him feel small and it was demeaning.

1. “When you ask a question [b:2780325198]HERE[/b:2780325198]” (emphasis added)

2. “1. The model of your tractor (2N, 9N, 8N, NAA, etc).”

3. “If it’s an N, if the………………”. [b:2780325198]He told you it was an 8n[/b:2780325198]

4. “might need tune up, points dressed, rotten fuel, ignition switch, carb, dirty air cleaner, cracked distrib, water in fuel, bad connection somewheres, moisture in cap, low battery, charging issues. coil having issues, etc”
[b:2780325198]This listing here is overkill and loaded with sarcasm and you know it! Especially since you acknowledged Bruce’s listing in your post.[/b:2780325198]

5. [b:2780325198]And the topper……[/b:2780325198]"You can count turns can't you? .......”

[b:2780325198]And Elmer you said[/b:2780325198] “specific info willsave him time frustration and money.....”

[b:2780325198]I don’t think you cared about saving him squat until I called you out on it.[/b:2780325198]
I’m just trying to point this out from the viewpoint of a new person on this board. If you want the board to grow and new people are welcome, you might want to review your answers and the motives behind those answers. If you think I’m totally wrong, then just keep on do’n what your do’n and you can keep on talk’n to the same good ol’ boys day after day, night after night.


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[JMOR]

(quoted from post at 00:10:36 08/12/11) I know I’m spitt’n into a fan go’n up against the “GURU’s” here, but I’m going to try this anyway. You know in your heart of hearts the information you wanted from him and the way you listed it was to make him feel small and it was demeaning.

1. “When you ask a question [b:c1a5055486]HERE[/b:c1a5055486]” (emphasis added)

2. “1. The model of your tractor (2N, 9N, 8N, NAA, etc).”

3. “If it’s an N, if the………………”. [b:c1a5055486]He told you it was an 8n[/b:c1a5055486]

4. “might need tune up, points dressed, rotten fuel, ignition switch, carb, dirty air cleaner, cracked distrib, water in fuel, bad connection somewheres, moisture in cap, low battery, charging issues. coil having issues, etc”
[b:c1a5055486]This listing here is overkill and loaded with sarcasm and you know it! Especially since you acknowledged Bruce’s listing in your post.[/b:c1a5055486]

5. [b:c1a5055486]And the topper……[/b:c1a5055486]"You can count turns can't you? .......”

[b:c1a5055486]And Elmer you said[/b:c1a5055486] “specific info willsave him time frustration and money.....”

[b:c1a5055486]I don’t think you cared about saving him squat until I called you out on it.[/b:c1a5055486]
I’m just trying to point this out from the viewpoint of a new person on this board. If you want the board to grow and new people are welcome, you might want to review your answers and the motives behind those answers. If you think I’m totally wrong, then just keep on do’n what your do’n and you can keep on talk’n to the same good ol’ boys day after day, night after night.


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ell, MO8N4ME, Bruce has uses that same list of request for thousands of posters for years and for some reason you seem to be the only one with his hair on fire. Only you know why. "You know how to count?" is the only thing I see that anyone could take offense to & if they have been around YT any time at all, they know that is part of Dell's character & will have seen it in virtually every carb post that he has ever made since time began. I also want all the information that I can get in order to help solve a problem.

Now this makes the second post in this thread the does nothing to help Carl with his problem.

 

[Bruce (VA)]

Rather than amuse us w/ your Emily Post-like suggestions for politically correct tractor board etiquette, what say you help Carl & inform the rest of us by diagnosing his problem & telling him how to fix it? You clearly have all the information YOU need to do that: it's an 8N that sputters under load.

Go ahead. We're waiting. Be specific.

 

[elmersooner]

listing a long list let him know that he wasn't specific enough for us to narrow it down. MO8N4ME you sir are obviously having issues that extend beyond this board. go ahead and tell us how to fix his tractor, if you don't like the way questions are answered I feel for you and will lose sleep over it :roll: . How about I try this for future question answering....I will use pretty please with sugar on top. wait patiently by my computer and post to you to see if my etiquette is correct and proper and doesn't offend you in any way. stop taking your estrogen and quit being so sensitive, you sound like a lady going through PMS.

 

[MO8N4ME]

I wish I didn’t care about this, but for some reason I do. And my hairs’ not on fire at all.

JMOR, you said “& if they have been around YT any time at all” ……….This is my point , Carl is a guest and I haven’t been around YT that long.

Bruce(VA), I kinda figured if I brought this up I’d get a stick in my spokes, but I thought you might be a reasonable person…….I’m out of moves, I “king” you.


Elmer,………..ah…………… never mind.

 

[Carl Koeppel]

I am REALLY sorry I didnt reply to your posts! I am new to this site because we just recently purchased our 8n. I was looking up different things about the tractor and this site came up a lot, and it was very useful! I know my way around a tractor fairly well, but you guys seemed VERY knowledgeable! I didn"t want to make anyone mad, I was just thinking maybe that this was a somewhat common problem. I apologize for taking up so much of all your time.
The tractor is a 1952 ford 8n with a 6v system, and the distributer is on the side of the tractor.
Again, I am sorry and when I use this site in the future I will go into more detail.

 

[Bruce (VA)]

No need to apologize! Nearly all of us like to have the basics understood before we start answering questions.

And you didn't make anyone mad either.

When was last time you tuned it (points, plugs, condenser, rotor, cap, set the timing & adjusted the carb)? It could just need a tune up.
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[Carl Koeppel]

I think that's it. The guy we bought it from restored it and put new everything in a while back, and then let it sit outside until we bought it a few weeks ago. We'll give it a good tune up one of these days. I just wanted to ask and see what you thought.

Thanks, Carl

 

[Bruce (VA)]

Yea, it's very likely that the points have some corrosion on them if it hasn't been run in a while. Dress them w/ a piece of brown paper bag or card stock & check the gap at .025.

Post back w/ any more questions.
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[Joe in MI]

I have a dearborn cultivator with 7 shanks. If I just drop cultivator into the ground, even in my sandy soil, it will stop the tractor. It pulls the cultivator fine as long as I'm using it properly, and not trying to bury the points. The same tractor pulls a double 16" plow in the same ground - it grunts and doesn't like it much, though.

So, looking at your issue from a different angle, are you using the implement correctly? My understanding is that cultivators are meant to basically scratch the surface - maybe just an inch or two down. If you are trying to use it as more of a ground-breaking implement like I originally was it may be too much for the tractor.

Of course, I may be totally off - my tractor doesn't run the greatest - maybe it should be able to drag the full lengths of the tines through the ground. Seems like a bit much to me, though.

Joe