Ford Industrial gas engine

[SamMI]

This engine has the large carburetor same as the 172c.i. engines. Is there any way I can identify it as a 172 or 192 engine? The number on the head is 310100. Had the head off years ago but never documented the cylinder dia. Thanks,

 

[showcrop]

It was posted on here a few years ago that you could tell by the plate just down from and ahead of the distributor that covers an opening for mounting a fuel pump. Can't tell you from personal experience.

 

[Anonymous-0]

(quoted from post at 10:10:43 12/24/10) This engine has the large carburetor same as the 172c.i. engines. Is there any way I can identify it as a 172 or 192 engine? The number on the head is 310100. Had the head off years ago but never documented the cylinder dia. Thanks,

The 192 I have has a fuel pump and I was told that was the quickest way to tell the difference but I dont kmow if thats fact or not.

 

[Anonymous-0]

I have one with the plate over the hole in the block where the fuel pump would go . Had the head off about 6 mons ago to put on new head gasket . I measured the bore with a ruler & it was a full 3.50 in thats all I know about it but it is a very stout 841. When I got it it was in a C Allis chalmers someone had done a lot of machine work to put ut in there . It had part of a industural hood on it & a industural radiator. I bought it not running but with a little tune up it ran great so I put it in a 841 I had that had a bad engine

 

[Dean]

Apparently you have a 134 CI engine.

The 134 has a 3.4375" bore while the 172 has a 3.9" bore. The bore of the four cylinder 192 is 4.13."

The 134, 172 and 192 engines use different cylinder blocks having different casting numbers.

Dean

 

[Anonymous-0]

The casting number on this engine block is D1NL8015A. Would you reply with the casting nuymber on your 192ci engine please.

 

[RickB]

That must have been a REALLY stout 'C'!!!

 

[Dean]

The block casting number of my 192 CI Ford industrial power unit engine is D1NJ60150(or O).

Dean

 

[Tony Jacobs]

Hello Sam , Your engine is a 172 Gas Industrial . 99 percent of all Industrial Engines have the fuel pump boss drilled with a blockoff plate installed because not all applications used fuel tank mounted above the engine so with remote tanks a fuel pump was used . Thanks Tony Jacobs

 

[Tony Jacobs]

Hello Dean , Check your casting number again because it does show up in any of my books, Sams casting number is the only D1 number listed for the 172/192 blocks . Thanks Tony

 

[Dean]

Hi, Tony.

With my eyes, it's hard to read the casting numbers where the unit is located but I'll give it another try.

Mine is definitely a 192 as it still has the 192 decal on the rocker arm cover and I know the history. It's a natural gas engine that I have converted to gasoline. I expect that the CR is close to 10:1 so it should produce in excess of 70 flywheel HP.

Eventually, I plan to install it in my 64 4000 SOS with tired engine.

Dean

 

[Dean]

Upon closer inspection, it appears that the casting number is D1NL80150.

With my eyes it's easy to get mixed up especially when trying to read upside down numbers.

Dean

PS: I have not forgotten the 1963 W block (409/Z11 427) articles promised but have not yet made it to the archives in the attic where I KNOW it is.

Dean

 

[Anonymous-0]

Do you really mean Natural Gas?
OR do you mean Propane?

 

[Tony Jacobs]

Hello Dean , All Ford engine blocks are 6015 in the casting number , reading Sam's now I see he posted 8015 which should just be 6015 the A is correct for the 172 gas . I stll have nothing for the O at the end of your casting number . Thanks Tony, No rush on the Z11 info whenever you locate it that's fine.

 

[Anonymous-0]

mine is in a sullair rotary screw aircompressor and is about 30 miles from me on a location that uses the air. I will travel there in a few days to get the number for you guys. My fuel tank is mounted below the engine and requires a fuel pump.

 

[Sean in PA]

(quoted from post at 19:21:43 12/26/10) Do you really mean Natural Gas?
OR do you mean Propane?

I never heard of one running on Natural Gas. The only Ford tractor and/or industrial engines that I was aware of were made to run on LP Gas (Liquefied Petroleum Gas), which is another name for propane. Natural gas is a whole nother beast. Natural gas is usually delivered to houses via an underground pipe and is used directly out of that pipe for cooking and running furnaces. LP Gas is stored in metal tanks and is delivered in tank trucks or by taking your empty tank to the propane dealer and having them refill it from their larger tank. Compressed Natural Gas in portable sized tanks has been used in limited numbers of production vehicles only since 1993, while LP Gas has been used in tractors, fork lifts, etc. for much longer.