Ford Loader ID???

Donnie C

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Have an industrial loader on the 861 tractor I just bought and I'm trying to figure out what loader it is. It has a Ford serial plate on it that says Component # I 9336 Serial #I 222. I'm trying to figure out what level to keep the hydraulic fluid at. The res is in the left loader arm. There is a drain and a fill plug but have not found a level plug and there is no dipstick. Any ideas??? Thanks,

Don
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19-336 corresponds to a model 725 loader which was made 1/59 thru 12/74. I didn't see a manual available on this site but there were some available on ebay.
 
Looking at the pictures, they should be double acting cylinders, so the fluid level in the reservoir should remain constant, no matter what position the loader is in.

When a double acting cylinder gets fluid pumped into it on one side, the ram moves toward the other end and displaces just as much fluid from the far end as was pumped in on the near end.

If you are changing the fluid, or filling it for the first time after mounting it to the tractor, fill it to the recommended level and work all of the cylinders from one end to the other a few times and then check the fluid level in the reservoir again.
 
I have same loader the level mark is on the left ,loader arm res, look for that mark about 10 inches down the loader res.
 
(quoted from post at 18:38:51 10/26/09) Looking at the pictures, they should be double acting cylinders, so the fluid level in the reservoir should remain constant, no matter what position the loader is in.

When a double acting cylinder gets fluid pumped into it on one side, the ram moves toward the other end and displaces just as much fluid from the far end as was pumped in on the near end.

If you are changing the fluid, or filling it for the first time after mounting it to the tractor, fill it to the recommended level and work all of the cylinders from one end to the other a few times and then check the fluid level in the reservoir again.

I disagree with the statement that the level stays constant! When a cylinder is fully extended the oil volume is that of the whole cylinder, BUT when the cylinder is fully retracted the oil volume is that of the cylinder MINUS the displacement of the piston/ram INSIDE the cylinder. I will concede that there is not a great deal of difference, but there is some!
As to which position to have the cylinders in when checking the oil level, THAT I don't know!
HTH, Dave
 
I disagree with the statement that the level stays constant! When a cylinder is fully extended the oil volume is that of the whole cylinder, BUT when the cylinder is fully retracted the oil volume is that of the cylinder MINUS the displacement of the piston/ram INSIDE the cylinder. I will concede that there is not a great deal of difference, but there is some!
As to which position to have the cylinders in when checking the oil level, THAT I don't know!
HTH, Dave

Good evening,

The way I picture it, Shetland is nearer on target. I believe the volume displacement from the piston itself will be the same extended or retracted, however in the retracted position you are using less oil as the ram displaces a fair chunk inside the cylinder as pressure is applied on only the outer portion of the piston, the "area" between the ram and the cylinder wall.

Typically, you will want to check your oil level with cylinders extended, but it may be different with the reservoir built into the frame.

Chris
 
(quoted from post at 23:31:38 10/26/09)
I disagree with the statement that the level stays constant! When a cylinder is fully extended the oil volume is that of the whole cylinder, BUT when the cylinder is fully retracted the oil volume is that of the cylinder MINUS the displacement of the piston/ram INSIDE the cylinder. I will concede that there is not a great deal of difference, but there is some!
As to which position to have the cylinders in when checking the oil level, THAT I don't know!
HTH, Dave

Good evening,

The way I picture it, Shetland is nearer on target. I believe the volume displacement from the piston itself will be the same extended or retracted, however in the retracted position you are using less oil as the ram displaces a fair chunk inside the cylinder as pressure is applied on only the outer portion of the piston, the "area" between the ram and the cylinder wall.

Typically, you will want to check your oil level with cylinders extended, but it may be different with the reservoir built into the frame.

Chris

As I indicated earlier, I'm not sure, but it would seem that if you filled to the suggested level of 8+/- inches down in the tower/reservoir, with the cylinders extended, that 8 inches would accomodate the additional oil that the pistons displace when retracted. Just my thoughts!
HTH, Dave
 
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