Ford Loader Question

[Anonymous-0]

Just got back from looking at a Ford loader. The Ford tag says Model No. 19-97 and serial number 7452. I'm condidering this for my '65 3000 but it sure is a fixer upper. All four cylinders are so rusted I don't see any way to salvage. All hoses are shot, BTW there are no steel lines, all hoses. Plus it's been cut and welded on in several spots. This loader looks a little lightweight compared to others I've seen on a 3000's.

Does this model number ring a bell with anyone? I'd really like to see a picture of one of these in original condition to see what's been cut off and what's been added.

 

[Anonymous-0]

Let's see, you will need;
4 cylinders - ~200 each --> $800
Hard lines - ~ 40 each --> $160
Crack repair (the right way) - hours and hours
Bushings (probable) - ~16 bushings at ~25 each


And you want to do this, why?

Keep looking - you have found a parts donor with very few salvagable parts.

 

[Anonymous-0]

Thanks for the reply. Been searching the archives and now see that this loader was made for the older tractors.

I've got a real itch for a loader and the $250 price sure caught my eye. I've got lots of time to re-furbish one and could spread the cost out over several months but I think you're right that I pass on this one.

Hard to find reasonable priced loaders without having to drive 1000 miles to pick up though.

 

[Anonymous-0]

Here's a photo if I can make it work.

She's a beaut...

 

[Anonymous-0]

Don't walk, RUN AWAY!

Did you notice that there were WATER fittings being used? Unions and Tee's? Those are rated for something like 250 psi and the pump is putting out 1500-2000 psi.

You would need to bend up new steel lines, get all new soft hoses, and buy a fluid reservoir. That's a good 4-500 bucks for those (if you do the bending yourself).

I don't see that the cylinders are rusted up. The ousides of them don't count, the rod is what you need to be concerned with.

There is a fairly large amount of scabbing extra steel on the frame and you would need to sand blast it down, fix the snitty welds, add new plating, prime and paint.

The bushings are usually two (2) per cylinder end. That's 4 per cylinder, the pins are probably toast. You're looking at another 4-500 bucks for bushings and pins. Plan on welding more DOM tubing onto the bucket as they didn't bush the bucket.

Then the bucket is in what kind of condition?

If you really want it, then offer $100. It's probably worth that in parts and pieces. But it will take some lov'n to get that baby back into decent shape!
jb

 

[Anonymous-0]

Does it come with a bucket? And are the cylinder rods rusted, or just rusty on the outside? Does that price include the control valves? And would it be a lot of trouble to get it home from where it is now?

I don't know much about a 3000, but that loader looks like it would fairly easily fit my 641D or 851, if it had the front mounting plate. But building a mounting plate wouldn't be that tough. It also would be nice to have the proper pins that go through the mounting plate, but I don't think they would be all that hard to make or expensive to have made.

If the cylinder rods are badly pitted, repairing them can get very expensive, but just resealing them is not too hard or costly. If there is no bucket, you could build one, but that would take a bunch of time and materials and would be hard to get right the first time. Obviously hard lines would be better, but I bet you could get that loader to work just fine with the hydraulic hoses.

If it has a bucket that isn't too beat up and is all there, I don't think $250 is an outrageous price. I would probably try offering less, but if that didn't work, would probably buy it anyway, if I needed a loader. Good luck!

 

[Anonymous-0]

That's a Ford Model 703, Industrial Step-On Loader. The 19-97 designation means that it has double-acting hydraulic cylinders. 19-105 is single-acting.

I have a 19-97 that I'm currently rebuilding. Despite needing some attention, it would be a shame to see it go to the scrap man. I say buy it, fix it up right, and use it.

Should you decide against it, I might be interested. Where is it located?

 

[Anonymous-0]

Hal/Wa,
It has no bucket and the controls do come with it. The cylinders are what scares me the most. The two cylinders that are extended have no evidence of chrome on them, solid rust. The two bucket cylinders are retracted but from the little I could see they were in similar shape. Using the loader frame to hold hydraulic fluid may be a problem too, probably leak like a sieve or may even be full of rust.

 

[Anonymous-0]

if your close to michigan there's one like it for $500 i went to look at very good shape but no bucket wouldn't fit my 801 was made for a1965 and up it is in the classified adds here JR.