Front loader on an 8/9 N

[WAYNE A JOHNSON]

Does a front loader on an 8/9N run off the tractor hydraulic pump and only work when the clutch is engaged or is it on its own pump and work with the clutch in or out?

 

[Sean in PA]

Depends on how it was installed. I don't think that Ford ever installed a loader on those tractors from the factory, so any that have one would have been at the discretion of whoever added it. I don't think that the 3-point pump on an N would be able to work a serious loader, maybe a manure bucket, but it would be darn slow.

 

[Anonymous-0]

I have rebuilt several 8N's over the past 40 years as a hobby and for resale. The parts are so expensive now that I quit. Several of the tractors I rebuilt had front end loaders with either a front mount or rear mount pto. Depending on the size of the pump and cylinders,they worked fine. These tractors were never designed for a loader and the front axle bearings and steering system will require extra maintenance. Also I would install a larger and wider front tire and maybe rear wheel weights. Good luck.

 

[souNdguy]

better than a wheel barow.. but yeah.. slow with 2.85 gpm..

a 1-arm, if the brackets weren't so scarce might actually be nice for them due to only having 1 lift cyl...

soundguy

 

[rankrank1]

(quoted from post at 09:36:16 12/30/10) Does a front loader on an 8/9N run off the tractor hydraulic pump and only work when the clutch is engaged or is it on its own pump and work with the clutch in or out?

In my opinion, the best loaders for an N are the ones that utilize an external front drive pump that drives off the front of the engine via a shaft, so that it is always live. The front pumps also provide enough GPM hydraulic flow to be reasonably capable lifting and provide fast enough response.

Even many of the old Dearborn loaders utilized the front drive pump, but were a bear for the operator to mount and dismount the tractor due to the cumbersome loader frame cage and most were only trip bucket. I prefer the Wagner (and other brands) that allow easy tractor mounting for the operator with the step through frame design and they also have the tilt bucket feature so they are much more modern in features.

Good recommendation by another poster to consider wider tires on the front. My recommendation would be 6.00 x 16" with some extra plies and smooth implement type tread. Thirty years ago when I was about 10 years old Dad had an 8N with the cumbersome Dearborn loader and 6.00 x 16 tires on the front with smooth tread. I did not have any problems operating that tractor even at that young age. The trick was you had to be moving to steer it.

Currently, I am in process of refurb'ing an old NAA with a Wagner loader with tilt bucket that is much more modern (campared to the Dearborn loader). I am excited to get it going, but the cold weather has put a damper on my progress.