Good belt drive implement for shows

[alabamafrog]

We get kinda bored at some of the shows and we were talking this morning about getting some sort of belt driven machine that we could play with at shows to both have something to do and to entertain spectators. We were thinking it would be best to get something that doesn’t take up too much trailer room and that would be relatively easy to load/unload and setup, but also something that would be fun and interesting to operate.
Anyone got any ideas?

 

[Anonymous-0]

get a John Deere 4-B corn sheller

 

[Hoss In ME]

Weve got a guy in ou club that brings an old small belt driven rok crusher to every one of our shows. also brings a dumptruck load of rocks with him and takes the crushed stone home and sells it.Draws a big crowd.Seen it run with everything from a JD-H to a farmall M. Hoss

 

[Will P]

Well, a nice load is a thresher, but hard to haul. On the smaller side of belt machines is a corn husker shredder if you have corn to put in it. We run our 4 roll with my JD B all the time. Good work out for him. The machines are lighter, about 3000 pounds, and go on trailers pretty well.

Just an idea.


Will

 

[wilamayb]

Any farm land surrounding your show grounds?

If so break out the plow and have a demonstration. If you have a couple the first year you'll have 25 the next year. It is contageous.

If you are stuck on a belt driven implement I'll have to agree with the corn sheller. It is likley the most practical. It doesnt require all that much preparation just pick a few gravity boxes of ear corn and put it back into a gravity box after shelling. The end product is marketable and does not require unusual equipment (for our area) like binders for the stationary thresher.

That sheller will much easier to transport than a stationary thresher.

A grist mill or hammer mill is another option and should be easy to obtain in your area.

 

[D7fever]

around here some fellows bring a shingle mill, neat to watch that is for sure

 

[alabamafrog]

We don’t have a show, we go to most of the shows around here, some of them have lots of tractor games and activities but others are pretty dull. We cattle farm so I don’t have access to anything but hay unless I planted a garden specifically for it, which I could do. I saw a wire tie stationary square baler at a show once and it drew a pretty good crowd and looked like fun. It would be nice to get something that would fit on the 25’ GN along with a tractor or two.

I will look into all of the stuff mentioned so far and see what it is and if I can find any of it.

 

[Mike M]

One of the biggest draws I have seen is a thing someone made out of all kinds of junk. They ran it with a hit and miss. I don't have a picture of it.

One of the biggest draws at the car show is a similar idea of an old jalapy covered in all kinds of stuff. Sort of like a Beverly hillbilly mobile ? Makes you look for a long time trying to identify stuff.

 

[thurlow]

Ice cream freezer driven by hit and miss engine; makes money, too.

 

[cogger]

I have a Lane shingle mill I run with my 37 JD A Sure draws a
crowd, even when it isn"t cutting shingles just right! I think I have
included links to three short videos of it in action.

http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=245665561643
http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=245665031643
http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=245663191643

 

[JMS/.MN]

Like this?

 

[730-LP]

Grist mill and grind meal,can be pulled with a small tractor,hit and miss engine or a small power unit like a LUC engine

 

[Canadian Ken]

I built a belt drive for a PTO dyno that I own. It consists of a frame with 3 point hitch attached to mount on a tractor to stabilize. The belt drive shaft is the cylinder shaft from an old thresher that was being scrapped. There is a picture of the setup on our clubs website under "club photos" www.1stontariotwocylinder.com
that"s me with the green shirt with my back to the camera by the John Deere G - I mainly built it for working all of my tractors at home especially the John Deere D tractors with either the high PTO shaft or no PTO shaft. It draws a lot of attention at shows.
Ken

 

[Anonymous-0]

Buzz saw. You can hear it from a mile away. We staked ours to the ground and ran a long belt. I've seen some mounted to the tractor.

 

[DScott]

Not belt driven but I have thought that a Dyno would be good to take to shows. They are relatively small, compact and easy to haul, you don't have to haul crops and dispose of anything afterward, and there is not a whole lot of liability with whirling saw blades or etc. I think a lot of people would like to hook their tractor up to one and see how it does and it's spectator friendly too.

 

[alabamafrog]

Wow, what a great response.
Here is the list of ideas so far;

Shingle mill
Burr mill
Corn Sheller
Hammer mill
Grist mill
Wood saw
Wood lathe
Rock crusher
Hay press
Air pump
Ice cream maker
Thresher
Hay baler
Rube Goldberg machine
Dyno (which is very interesting to me)

Now I got to do research and figure out what each of these are and see if I can find any of them around here at a decent price.
I will have to use one of my styled A’s as the power source because I have the cultivators and planters mounted on my 60 and the MT.

 

[Anonymous-0]

One that I thought was really interesting was a rock crusher. I think they ran it with a hit&miss one year and then belted to a small tractor another year. Small (but heavy) and you will need a bunch of rocks or other debris (broken cinder blocks, bricks, etc.). I have only ever seen one in action.

 

[johndeereman]

at our show we always have a sawmill,shingle mill,bakers fan which gets alot of attention, theres also a guy that brings a belt driven lathe and makes baseball bats with it and sells them one time a guy brought a belt driven ice cream freezer and sold the ice cream for donations another guy roasts peanuts with a belt driven machine dont know what its called plus theres usually a wood planer and ALWAYS a thresher plus you misc. impliments for the home but they never get used just there for display

 

[Earl-IL]

THe I&I tractor club in Penfield Illinois has a Belt drive set up to dyno the tractors that don't have PTO. They also have another Dyno set up for PTO testing. It's a nice attraction. They have a blackboard set up with their testing for the day.

 

[alabamafrog]

I’m starting to think a combination belt driven and PTO driven Dyno would be lots of fun and anyone could use it and I wouldn’t have to run only my tractor and gas all day plus it would be useful and helpful. And there would be no raw materials to bring or mess to clean up. Now, to find one!

 

[buckeyebrierhopper]

one show they had d/cmotor set up belt drive with a large bank of load reostates hooked up to cam system to load an uload tractor while belted up,it really worked the snot out of what was hooked to it. i picked up a mmcorn sheler this yr.maybe shake the bushes alittle, you might be surprized what falls out.our show had all your list +sawmill,an aconcreate block maker,anfor fun stk tractor pull,gardentractor pull for the kids.

 

[Buckeye]

How about a burr mill? Not very big, butfairly heavy.

 

[Buckeye]

Picture of Burr Mill

 

[Buckeye]

This burr mill does the best job of any I have ever had. If anyone knows what kind it is, please let me know. I saw one in the AC history book that looks like it.

 

[Anonymous-0]

I'm sure it differs by part of the country but here in what was dairy country our group has tried the following.

Two guys have a wooden US Standard corn shredder. It works (actually quite well) & we've demonstrated it. It is big and not particularly easy to set up. We thought interest would be high because these machines are not common today and they're definitely different. People just walked by. They'd watch the threshing machine run wheat & ignore the shredder. Almost seemed like they didn't understand it & were ashamed to let us know that so they walked by.

We tried running ear corn through a 10" McCormick hammer mill. This can keep can keep a couple guys real busy and go through a LOT of corn in short order! We ran it with unstyled A's, a B, I think an R Minnie and an F20. It appeared too dusty and noisy for the crowd. Some little kids covered their ears or even cried & most people avoided it. We had a blast but the crowd was not impressed except for a few old timers who grinned from ear to ear and they were reminiscing. While that's what it's all about we were surprised how low the interest.

We set up a buzz saw between the dust wagon & the saw mill using it to cut the slab lumber into firewood lengths. While very few came up to watch us directly they at least saw what we had & how we were set up as well as how quickly we could make firewood outta scrap. We made it a point to stall around while they were sawing and we jumped into cutting mode while they were rolling or putting on another log. No problem keeping up!

Nothing however beats the dyno. That draws and holds the crowd. When you hook up an Oliver or a Fergie powered by a 3-71 Detroit... even with the mufflers there is no place to hide on the grounds! They KNOW something over there is makin one awful bunch of noise & they will come investigate. Sure they'll be a bit of a soot ball rain but set 'em steady with about an 80 horse load & that will stop before long! Hook up an old LA case or a Minnie UB LP & lug them down like they were pulling a plow over a hard clay knob. People will watch and grin! A 730D looking like new (muffler and all) always draws a crowd!

They're all a lot of work but it's also a lot of fun seeing people have fun watching. I try to watch the crowd & note if any seem a bit curious but yet reluctant to come up close & watch. They'll ask of the dyno "well what does it do or what does it tell you"? That's when we show them how you can see governor response, slipping clutches, speed (fast or slow) and HP output. I'll show them how you can look at the gauge & see that it's pointing to 65 Hp but look at the RPM. He's down to 480 and so it's not putting out nearly the 65 Hp it's pointing to.

'Nuff o my stories.

Later.

 

[Earl-IL]

I can get you pictures of our belt drive set up.It is best to designate 3 people to run the dyno. You will need to rope off the testing area to keep people away from the equipment.People will bring their tractors & think they run perfect, but put it on the dyno. Trctors will miss & cut out ,clutch slip, blow head gaskets. our club crew are very good they will adjust carb or suggest what they need to do .Change plugs, tighten clutch(Deere). We get them on the dyno let them warm up & then pull them down to rated speed 540-1000 PT.Then pull down for lugging power ,back off dyno & let run & cool a little.

 

[alabamafrog]

Most of the shows I go to there is absolutely nothing going on, its rare to even hear a tractor start except when unloading or loading at the beginning or end of the day. The most I can hope for is a slow race or a short parade. At most of the shows when someone finally starts up a tractor you can see the heads of all the spectators pop up and look around then they head that way usually only to have the tractor shut off or drive off as they start to gather around.
I’m thinking a prony brake or dyno would be a great tool to have, both to use at home and to take to shows.
So where do I get one or better yet, how do I make one????

 

[wilamayb]

Neat! I wish I could get a visual of all the gadgetry. It appears that someone spent a bit of time on it.

 

[F-I-T]

I agree. I sure do like having a dyno. But it is death on muffler paint.

Spring is coming and I'm going to have my spring Dyno Day soon. Smoke e'm if you got 'em.

 

[Anonymous-0]

Amen.

 

[wilamayb]

And those cheap aftermarket mufflers can burn out before you can bat an eye.

There is nothing like plowing with hunks of hot muffler pelting you in the face!

 

[buickanddeere]

(quoted from post at 18:28:37 02/14/10) We get kinda bored at some of the shows and we were talking this morning about getting some sort of belt driven machine that we could play with at shows to both have something to do and to entertain spectators. We were thinking it would be best to get something that doesn’t take up too much trailer room and that would be relatively easy to load/unload and setup, but also something that would be fun and interesting to operate.
Anyone got any ideas?

Baker fan. They absolutely baffle people why a 60HP tractor can only drive them less than 100rpm over what a 30HP tractor can do.