good disk for 4020

[Grant boyIN1985]

Hi I am looking for a good disc to use for both disking stalks in the fall and working ground in the spring. What are good models of disc any brand of the same era the 4020's were made? I have been looking on tractor house and fastline websites at john deere 210's but I'm not familar with implement model numbers. Also what would be a decent width to look for? I was thinking 13' to 16' with the 4020 dualed up. I live in southern indiana river bottoms with some sandy ridges and clay sloughes not any really gumbo sticky mud. My uncle said him and my grandfather used a 13' deere disc setup that did pretty good. So thats what i'm leaning toward.

Thanks for any help

grant

 

[Crookedwrench]

Maybe you can find a rusty one that won"t be too RED? IH 370 at 15-16' on a dualed 4020 would be hard to beat!

 

[2520=4010]

Miller and Crustbuster offsets are good brands of disks....don't know if they made them in the late sixties. I would think 14' would be a good size for a 4020.

 

[Bob Bancroft]

I pull a 14' disc and cultipacker behind my 4020 on level ground. Any hills- forget it.

 

[esfoder]

I've got an old 11 foot killifer offset disc on my 4020 and that's about all it wants. I pull it over my field after it gets plowed. But that's my ground. Yours might be different?

 

[thurlow]

When our 4020s were new, we pulled 12 ft AWs with them; most had 18.4s and one had dual 15.5s; in our soils, they were a good match and 14 ft would've been pushing it. Also had a 12 ft A-C (2300????); it was framed with angle iron and was constantly breaking the frame(s). We later had a 14 ft something (BWF, maybe); 4020s wouldn't handle it.

 

[Anonymous-0]

My dad bought a new 4010 D just before the 4020's came out. A year or two later he also bought a new "BW"- 19 ft 2 in. disk. We farmed mostly heavy Iowa Clarion Webster silt loam. That tractor would pull this disc in 6th on Corn stalks & 5th in plowed ground. Any smaller disk would have been a waste. On the other hand, the used 4010 D that I later purchased would only pull this disk in 5th in stalks & 4th in plowed ground--until I installed the M&W turbo, oil pan, fan, etc. Then it would pull that disk at about any speed I desired!!

 

[nickg]

Well Im a southern IN boy myself. Im gona have to say in our type river bottom ground I would wanna stay less than 14". Grandpa and cousin farmed river ground and had a dualed up 4020 and pulled a 12" burch disk. Cant remember the model number tho. Just remember grandpa talkin about how they went to town and bought two 69 4020 diesels and then drove one of them down to the burch plant to pick up there new disk and then drove them home. I use a 12" kewannee on my 67 4020 diesel with no duals two disk in ruts so i dont have to drag my 30" disk out to just close in some ruts and disk more than I want worked. I think you might be all rite in the sandier parts of your field with a 14 but the parts that have that heavy river clay prolly give you a bit of troubles. just my thoughts tho.

 

[Greeen Envy]

We pulled a 21ft FWA disc with our 4020 diesel powershift back in the day. The FWA is more of a light disc that you will probably want to use.

 

[David from Kansas]

14' BW. Pulled one with an 820 and later with a 4020 with no problem.

 

[Ralph Bauer]

I imagine it would depend on your 4020 as well, when it was made (early, vs. later model), gas, diesel, LP, as well as your tranny (syncro, powershift), front end (narrow, wide) and then the general condition of your tractor (well taken care of over the years vs. abused).
I bought a JD BW (14+3+3) last year. Those wings will give you a few more option on width if it pulls too much, re-hitch and fold one up. Due to the drought, I have not used it with my '69 4020LP (I also got a 4320 and 5010 if I need to switch tractors), wanted to replant my CRP into Bermuda, maybe this spring.... Live in SW OK, very sandy cotton and peanut ground. Disk size also important and last it depends how deep you plow.
And don't forget to properly weigh out your 4020 with front and rear weights.
Just rambling, hope it helps!

 

[Tx Jim]

I'd rather have a little reserve hp left than trying to pull a tractors guts out all the time. I'd stick with a 14' but a JD 210 wouldn't be my choice of a primary tillage tool. I owned a JD 210 and traded it for a JD 310

 

[Ted K]

I pull an 18 foot IHC 470 with my "65 4020D Syncro-range. I"m in central MN and have soil ranging from gumbo-like low ground to clay hills and the 4020 does OK with the disc. In the rocky/hilly areas I use 2nd gear but it"ll haul it in 3rd otherwise. However, my 830 used to do the same work in the same time on a bit less fuel. Duals are a must in new plowing but in corn stalks/grain stubble, singles are fine.
Ted K

 

[Grant boyIN1985]

Thanks for all the replies. My 4020 is a 65 model diesel syncho shift. I currently have a kewanee disk thats either a 12.5 footer or 14 footer. The front measures around 12.5 but rear without furrow fillers is around 14 feet. Might stick with that but its really not all that heavy. I really appreciate all the info/ experiences. Plenty to think about and look for during these cold winter monthes coming up

Thanks again.

Grant

 

[Ralph Bauer]

Grant, I assume that you talk about your disk's construction, as in "heavy duty" or "beefy", not the weight itself. If it is a weight issue, cinder blocks, wheel weights, and solid metal bars and beams are some of the ways to add weight to your equipment to make them "heavier" (in weight).

 

[Grant boyIN1985]

the frame is so so. Its frame build looks kinda similar to the john deere 210 but without the gangs being offset from one another. good idea on adding weights i have some for the front of the 4020 that are not being used I just have to come up with a way to secure them to the disc. Do you think duals on the 4020 would be to wide for that disc? The wheels are about 90 inches outside to outside and i have one snap on style wheel and am looking for another. Thanks again

 

[johndeerefan]

I pull a 12'-13' John Deere AWR with my 4000. It is about the right size setup. But the AWR is a heavy version of the AW with 1 1/4 axles instead of 1 1/8.

 

[Retro80]

John Deere BWF 18 Foot

 

[rockyridgefarm]

I'm constantly amazed by equipment recommendations on here. I just got in from pulling a 16 foot BWF with 20 foot pony drag with a 4430 and it was all that tractor could handle (A3 and 4). I can't imagine ANY type of soil or conditions where a 4020 will pull an 18 foot BWF and do an effective job.

HERE, you'd do well to get 10 or 12 foot disk for behind that 4020. You start pulling the disk and then put a harrow behind it and you're gonna make that 4020 snort.

 

[esfoder]

Yeah I agree a 10 or 12 disc is about Max at my place. I just don't want to push mine to the limit.

 

[Retro80]

(quoted from post at 01:27:06 11/22/11)
I'm constantly amazed by equipment recommendations on here. I just got in from pulling a 16 foot BWF with 20 foot pony drag with a 4430 and it was all that tractor could handle (A3 and 4). I can't imagine ANY type of soil or conditions where a 4020 will pull an 18 foot BWF and do an effective job.

HERE, you'd do well to get 10 or 12 foot disk for behind that 4020. You start pulling the disk and then put a harrow behind it and you're gonna make that 4020 snort.

This is my 4020 pulling a BWF 18Ft all the way in the ground. My 80 2cylinder also pulls the same disk all the way in the ground.
http://youtu.be/bGx3vurv9rE 4020
http://youtu.be/KTnxQK9ZQ2Y 80

 

[rockyridgefarm]

Would you disk more'n the headland with that 80?

You've got pretty flat ground there and it looks like you have very favorable conditions for disking. BUT, if that 4020 is stock, it is MAXED out for disk size. I'll bet you never pull a drag behind that rig.

For most people and in most situations, that is way too much disk for a stock 4020. 12 to 14 feet is a good recommendation, especially if a guy wants to pull a harrow behind it.