Got A Minute?

[Allan in NE]

If you're not busy, could ya give me a hand? Need to lift this:

Up onto this. It goes in that big, pronounced and gaping hole. :>)

 

[evielboweviel]

ya got the coffee pot on?
Ron

 

[Lanse]

i'd help you if i were closer....

 

[Allan in NE]

Yes Sir, that's why I need help.

It's 17 degrees and I don't wanna go out. :>)

Allan

 

[bob farrell]

Allan - You're not kidding anybody. You are not going to install that without a lot of TLC. We know you. I bet it looks brand new before you go to hoisting. bob farrell

 

[Allan in NE]

Yeah, ya got me.

Gonna give 'er a good wash and then power it up while it's still sitting on the ground.

I wanna make darned sure it's okay and ready to go before I arm-wrestle that pig up there. Not looking forward to that task at all.

'Sides, got lot of fixin' to do under the engine area before we reach that job. Hope to have it up there sometime around the first of the year tho.

That wheat will be greenin' up here in 5 or 6 months! :>)

Allan

 

[Anonymous-0]

Is that motor a 6 or 4 cylinder? How many horse power? Like to have one to power a generator.

 

[Lanse]

Dang, thats a big generator. According to this, the F2 had a 4cyl engine and about 112 hp. Thats a BIG generator!!!

 

[Allan in NE]

This one is the 2800 6 cylinder. I "think" about 80 horse or so.

The F2 only had it one year, 1977 in the short-tailed combine.

I always liked it 'cause it would just simply pull circles around the newer, turboed and "more powerful" 95 horse 4 cylinder version.

Either that, or the neighbors were raising far better crops than I. :>)

Allan

 

[Anonymous-0]

Do you know of a small diesel motor of about 45 horsepower?

 

[Allan in NE]

Dunno,

You might look into a small irrigation pumper engine. Had one on a re-use pit one time; think it was a "Duetz", maybe?

That little thing would run on fumes. 'Bout a pint an hour?

Allan

 

[Steve from MO - dangit!]

New - lots of places sell the smaller Kubota and Yanmar diesel engines.

Used/Salvage. Chevette or Chevy LUV or older Chevy S10 used a very nice little Isuzu diesel about that size. Older Nissan pickup trucks had a little diesel. Older Ford Ranger pickup trucks used a little Mazda diesel. The engines are popular in hay country to put on swathers.

 

[spanky]

Ok I'll get up top and you hand it up. I'll grab it and drop it in place. <:~0

 

[Steve from MO - dangit!]

Is that your AC pump hanging out the side off the engine?

 

[Anonymous-0]

Thanks for the information and good luck..

 

[Allan in NE]

Yeah,

I'll probably test that one and see if it pumps. Easy enough to swap out if it doesn't work.

Allan

 

[old]

Just hang your chain hoist from a sky hook. LOL Or maybe you could call the Air force and they could fly one of there air lift cranes over and help you out.
Hobby farm

 

[Brian in Ohio]

Will one of your Farmhand loaders lift it up that high and get it where you need it?

 

[Allan in NE]

Is quite a ways up there 'taint it?

Might have to use one of these other loaders to get 'er planted. :>(

Allan

 

[Allan in NE]

It better or this fight is all over. :>)

Allan

 

[MIKE FRENCH]

Allen, spend some of that money you got and build a shed, LOL, your like me, work on the big stuff outside.

 

[Anonymous-0]

If I had not used my X-mas money to buy gas and electricity I would be right there...but gotta work.
Too bad you don't have a 8ft length of I beam to mount on that loader to get it a little farther away from the unit.
Good luck with that thing...be careful. Get you a ground guide and a rope to set it in.

 

[old]

Allan are those cylinders on the loader single stage or double stage??? I have bits an pieces of an old loader that has cylinders about that long but there double stage type

 

[Allan in NE]

These are all single stage.

The two smaller loaders are two-way and that big F-10 uses one way oil.

Gonna try to get it up there with this bird, but if not might have to go to plan B.

Allan

 

[Anonymous-0]

I wonder if a rental outfit would have a portable A-frame hoist. I've seen them before. Lifting it up and having to move it around to get it in position, I'd be really worried about the loader creeping down or worse, a hydraulic failure. I used an engine hoist and my skid steer to move it, to pull and replace the engine and tranny in my Cat. The engine hoist gave me precise adjustments which made it a lot easier. Being that you have a lot more ackward placement to get it into, it would be good to use a real safe method to do it. I wonder if you could hire a service truck from a heavy equipment repair outfit with the crane on the side? Might cost a couple hundred bucks but would make your job a lot easier. Good luck. Dave

 

[Allan in NE]

Closest rental place is probably 200 miles away. No concrete slab out there on the prairie to operate on anyways.

Heck, if I can't nudge that hooter up there into place, I just ain't worth my salt. :>)

Allan

 

[Anonymous-0]

I just did that a couple of years ago with our gleaner A combine. It had the buda 230 six cylinder in it. Ours was using a lot of oil and was worn out. We bought one at the junkyard, got it all in and it started very well and ran great but still used a TON of oil. We ended up letting her sit and bought a gleaner K that has the chevy motor in it. Runs very well, has power steering, used no oil, has a much more comfortable cab and ran beans for us very well. I had a 3000 lb capacity air tired forklift to put our engine assembly in. It was very heavy though! Good luck.

 

[Patsdeere]

What about finding some nice piece of land and digging a big hole (not to burry it, though) and rolling it down into the hole? Then you could take anything that could lift it and get it fairly close, wouldn't have to lift it that high and you could walk off ground level and take a step or two and be on top. Just another hair brained crazy idea of mine (but it just might work).

 

[Anonymous-0]

when we took the engine out of our 203 to see just what had happened we parked under a tree - winched the engine up an inch or 2 - and pulled the combine out from under it........

 

[JMS MN]

My first thought, before reading the posts was- you have a Farmhand, right?- lifts about 21 feet? Then, saw your pix. Granted, could use a little more forward reach. Running the chain across the top of your grapple crosspieces would give you about 2 feet more reach. Otherwise, a simple gin pole attached to the front. Couple pipes slipped over the teeth, pulled together in a vee, weld together, with a brace or chain to the top of the grapple or loader frame.

 

[Paul from MI]

Looks like a heavy load for one loader. Might try one loader on each side , since it looks like you've got two of them. Then roll the combine inbetween the two. Loaded lots of heavy stuff on flat bed trailers with two forklifts like this. Just a thought.
Paul

 

[Anonymous-0]

Doesn't the dealership in your area have the proper tools?

 

[Anonymous-0]

Gives whole new meaning to the term "shade tree mechanic" : )

 

[glennster]

i got an i beam a frame crane, with the extension legs it'll prolly reach 16 ft up if ya wanna borrow it, its up in illinois.

 

[Ohio Mike]

All I'm going to say is you guys need to remember, here is a guy who took cab off and on by himself not to mention all the other projects he has done. My money is on Allan,that F2 doesn't stand a chance in this round. Have fun Allan.

 

[Allan in NE]

Oh,

I'll get it for sure; just don't quite know how yet. :>)

The tricky part is that I've got to keep the loader bucket high enough to clear the stacks as well as stay above and away from that bin extension.

If neither of the little loaders will do it, I'll put that old F-10 back on the 686 and hook up that old hay sweep head. I know darned well it will go high enough 'cause it'll reach the top of an REA pole.

The engine just doesn't seem that heavy to me after unloading it the other night. 800 to 1,000lbs maybe?

Dunno, cross that bridge the day I get to it, I guess. :>)

Allan

 

[Anonymous-0]

Could you pop that black railing and fuel tank off of there to free up some room?

 

[paul]

Lance, the first F2, 1977, had a 6 cyl diesel, they were rated about 95hp at the engine. Starting the next year for the rest of the run, they had the turbo 4 you mention.

I've got the 6 cyl free air breather as well in mine. Good engine.

--->Paul

 

[Allan in NE]

I was thinking of coming in dead center to the side of the machine. Thing ought to slide right in there, I'm thinkin'.

Although, I did notice that they had taken the old motor off of the left side of the combine.

Either way, it's gonna be kinda interesting. :>)

Allan

 

[Anonymous-0]

get a case 580k backhoe with extendhoe, take bucket off, will pick it up with ease and place it where you need it.

 

[Dan-IA]

Know anybody with an old amish-style peg barn? Horizontal crossbeams in the top of mine look like 10x10s. Hey, if our 510s go under it, that should.

Local scalper has some gadget, looks like a gin pole boom that goes on a 3pt. kinda like this but with a hydraulic cylinder for more range:

 

[kyplowboy]

I have one I picked up at an auction a few years ago. It was home made, with a 12 foot extention for it. Would work great for this job. If Allen was a little closer I'd let him borrow it. Guy who had it built it to set 40 foot trusses for his pole barn with a 4955. I had to modify it to fit on a class II 3pt.

Dave

 

[Ozarker]

I like the backhoe idea. Precise control.

Plan B: remove fuel tank and railing. Set the cradle up on the tail and pull it forward with ratchet straps.

Plan C: Stack up about 30 small square bales against the combine and top it with a double layer of plywood. Set the engine cradle up there on some pipe rollers and pull it aboard from the other side.

Gonna be fun......

Bob

 

[cat236]

Seems to me the loader is the trick,yes a little shakey with single acting cylinders.The way I see it raise the loader to full height,cut two lengths of angle iron to lay on cylinder rods,this locks both sides fixed, now you have a stationary point to use your chain hoist as earlier suggested.Postion tractor and power unit behind the Gleaner hook up sling and raise with chain hoist.Now with a second tractor pull Gleaner in under hanging power unit.Trying to position hanging weight gets so risky,I have done plenty of it.Any time you can raise load and not have to "move it" the better. I have even done this when unloading extra heavy freight off of freight carriers.I lift, they pull forward, then I set down to gain more control.This way also would allow you to be on the machine to position engine as you lower into place. I wish you well, after viewing all of your posts over the last several years I am certain you were the origination of "If there is a will there is a way!