guns are tools

[Anonymous-0]

Ruger standard model 22 pistol, a Mark 3. My 13 year old daughter installed the magazine backwards. Does anyone know how to get the magazine out ?

 

[Earl Gray]

If your 13 year old has access to it your better off just leaving it stuck!

 

[Ryan_289]

I had access to every gun in the house when I was that age. It wasnt uncommon for me to come in from school, grab the .22 and a 50 rnd box of bullets, and be gone untill supper.

 

[David G]

Earl,

You are never going to win that argument here.

 

[Welding man]

No one thought anything bad about guns when I was
growing up. When I was a senior in high school I
took a 12 Ga Double barrel to school on the school
bus, refinished the stock in VOC AG class and hauled
it back home on the bus when I got it finished. No
problems at all. Bus driver and teacher
approved.Times have changed.

 

[David G]

Is was that way for me too, but do not trust not keeping them locked up now. I think theft and trading is a lot worse now.

 

[Earl Gray]

I just wanted to see what the reaction would be! When I was 13 I spotted a bear out in the pasture, ran to the house, got the 12 ga. and shot it! Then I drove the 51 chev. pickup down the state highway and loaded it up. Unfortunately with a school shooting almost every week we live in a different world now.

 

[dr sportster]

Well when I was in kindergarten I lived in Northern Ontario and my mom gave me a S&W model 27 just to blast snow outa my way walking to school. Can someone just tell the guy how to get the magazine unstuck please and stop telling stories how you were shooting in the womb..

 

[Anonymous-0]

My bad I guess. I was standing right next to her when she did it. The first time I shot a gun was the day President Johnson signed the gun control act of 1968. I was 8. Grandpa took me out his pasture to shoot his Remington 22, cause as he said, I want the boy to shoot before they take all the guns away. When I was 13 no adults were around and dogs were attacking the sheep. I used grandpas 12 gage Ithacia to kill the dogs. Not being a shoot, shovel and shut up sort of a guy I called the dogs owners and told them what I did. I am not saying that I know that if some methed up criminal broke into the house with a attempt to assault my daughter that she would use one of the Glocks to resolve the issue, but that is the way I would bet.
I still have that 22, the 12 gage and the pasture.

 

[dahlin]

My son did the same thing to my pistol. I googled how to get a magazine out of my mark III. It brought up some you tube videos. This helped me get the magazine out. They talk about a special tool to get it out but I didn't use one. Hope this helps.

 

[Goose]

When I was a junior in high school in 1951, we used a fully functional .45 pistol as a prop in a class play and no one gave it a thought. It was just an inanimate object necessary to the plot of the play.

Times have changed.

 

[Lou from Wi.]

I drove school bus for many a moon. I hauled student with his rifle to school for stock refinishing. No problem from the transportation officer. You can bet TIMES HAVE CHANGED!!!!
LOU.

 

[Stan in Oly, WA]

Hi Scott;

I've got a few Ruger firearms, including that one, and I've always had mixed feelings about them. I think the Mark 3 22 pistol is graceful and strong (strong is generally a given for Ruger products), and I also like the looks of the Mini-14, but the Redhawk I own strikes me as an ugly handgun (but strong).

I consider it a serious design flaw that your daughter was even able to insert the magazine backwards. If the Soviets could design a military pistol, the Tokarev, with the magazine feed lips machined into the receiver to reduce feed problems from damaged magazines, you'd think Ruger could have thought of some simple feature that would prevent the magazine from going in any way except the right way. People unfamiliar with products make mistakes, and good designers foresee those mistakes and design to eliminate them.

I hope you get it straightened out with no damage. If not, CDNN has got good magazine prices.
CDNN

 

[Mark - IN.]

I don't have one, but looked one up. Things happen.

Mark
Try This

 

[Mark - IN.]

The pictures show what happened, how its locked, and where. Also show that you will not be able to force it out. You will have to slide that bar back or the magazine will not come out, period.

Looking at the video of the MagOut tool in use, and from the photos of what exactly happened to lock your magazine in place, it looks as though a long, very thin screw driver inserted similarly to how they insert the MagOut tool, just might work with some patience and gentleness.

Poke around the site, especially under "tool" I think it was, and watch their demonstration video.

Good luck.

Mark

 

[GarryinNC]

Scott,
I think you can make your own tool for this. A lot of windshield wiper blades have two strips of fairly stout stainless steel in them to help support the rubber blade. They are 1/8"-3/16' wide and the strips will practically fall out when you change blades. I have saved some of these strips and used them for jobs similar to the stuck magazine. It should be stiff enough to slide up and push on the disconnect. It might be a little narrow, you could file a 'vee' in the top of it, to help catch the lever.

Just a suggestion.

 

[1948CaseVAI]

Mr Earl Gray - You can take a pill for that anxiety.

 

[NCWayne]

The only thing my 12 year old daughter has problems with is rocking a 30 round mag into her Mom's AK. Thus far she has shot everything from a friends 5.56 AR style rifle, to both her Mom's, and my AK's, along with .22, .380, 9mm, .40, and .45 caliber pistols. Currently she does a good job of hitting the dirt with anything over the 9mm, pistol wise, but she tries and isn't afraid of it, and above all she enjoys it. To me, that's the main thing. I sincerely hope no one ever tries to break into our house when she is home alone or they will be in for a BIG surprise. That said, I have been around guns all my life, just like you and most of the other posters below. In fact I was hitting the woods to squirrel and rabbit hunt, alone, when I was around her age. The way I see it, the younger you learn what a firearm can do, and establish within that young person the proper respect for the weapon, the better off, and safer, they will be when they get older.

 

[jeffcat]

Many years ago the neighbor had a Bic..h dog with a bunch of pups. WWEEELLLLL these dogs started running the live stock around. Lots of tellin the neighbor with no results. One day a couple of the grown up pups did not come HOME... Shoot, shovel, AND shut up. No more running troubles.

 

[Anonymous-0]

Set her up with a M4 type AR 15 im 9MM and you will be amazed at how lethal that little girl can be. Ours is a Bushmaster Carbon 15 and my daughter has no problem tearing up the X ring at 100 yards. And, in my house like yours, a bad guy may die with a real supprised look on his face.

 

[D beatty]

I have owened several Ruger .22 semi auto pistols and never put a magazine in back wards but did have trouble with them ejecting empties.I still have one but don't use it much. I like the performance of the Browning Buck Mark Plus with 5 1/2" target bull barrel. I have fired more ammo through the Browning than through the two Rugers combined with no malfunctions at all and has better sites.

 

[MarkB_MI]

Child Protective Services will be by shortly to help you out with your problem.

 

[Bret4207]

(quoted from post at 16:04:38 06/12/14) I just wanted to see what the reaction would be! When I was 13 I spotted a bear out in the pasture, ran to the house, got the 12 ga. and shot it! Then I drove the 51 chev. pickup down the state highway and loaded it up. Unfortunately with a school shooting almost every week we live in a different world now.

Unless you chose to believe Michael Bloombergs organization that is publishing complete and total and easily refuted lies about school shootings, we are not having anything even remotely close to "a school shooting almost every week". Complete and total lie. Not aiming that at you personally, but rather at the fools that repeat such nonsense in the news media.

 

[Gundoctor]

I have never seen a Magazine put in a Ruger MK 111
backwards. I think one would have to hammer it in. I would pull back the slide to the rear and lock it open. Then with a BRASS punch drive down on the magazine.

I hope this was not a joke!!

David Pidgeon
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[D beatty]

I started shooting at 7(air rifle)and shot gun at 10. Dads guns stood in corner of kitchen of old farm house. I learned not to touch guns without him there. If I would did anything with out his consent I would pick myself up in the back forty. Daughter started out at 7 with pellet rifle and by 10 she was shooting Ruger 77/22 and S&W model 63. I keep my guns locked up and she only used them when I was around.Her two kids are 7 and 10 and have been to range and learning the correct & safe way to use guns. Grand parents on both sides are gun oweners.

 

[Anonymous-0]

Thanks for all the help. Espically to dahlin for sending me to 1st to the video and Garry for the windshield wipper idea. It worked great. I feel like I am a expert on this now. That would be unsticking MK 111 mags, not so much on being a parent. But Mark called CPS on me so we will see how that goes ! Unlike the MK1 and 11 the MK 111 has a disconnect that will not allow the pistol to fire without a magazine installed. If the magazine is installed backward the disconnect captures the magazine, and it dosen't want to let go. As for driving it out with a punch, one would need a great big hammer and a lot of entheusium, Ruger builds things strong. Certianly the magazine would be destroyed, probably the disconnect also and general havoc would occure in the trigger group. Thanks again guys, problem solved and this has been fun.

 

[rad]

Back in the mid-60s, there was a shooting range underneath the high school auditorium's stage. There was a rifle club the met there and shot targets twice a week. And half the pickups in the parking lot had gun racks with guns in them. Trucks not locked either. Kids shot at pheasants on their way home from school. That school was only 10 miles west of Portland OR city center and was located in a mixed area with housing tracts and farmland.

Time sure have changed and not for the better. :-(

 

[T in NE]

Probably get arrested for having the empty rack in it today.