HELP ON RULE INTERPRETATION

[Anonymous-0]

I am looking for your opinion on this rule: * No cutting of the leading edge of the tire bar or casing allowed. Manufactured data must be intact. Tire size will be 200 sq in or less. Any rim width. * Can someone define for me the leading edge of the tire bar? I need a better idea of what I can cut on the tire and what I can't touch. Any advice or opinions would be helpful.

 

[Anonymous-0]

It means that you can only grind/cut the top surface of the lug and that's all. You can not alter or change the front edge of the lug, only the top.

 

[Lamont]

4010 pller has it right. Cutting the top of the bar "changes" the leading edge of the bar, but that's not what the rules says. You just can't make a "cut" on the leading edge of the bar. The rule DOES NOT say the leading edge can't be "altered" or "changed."

 

[jd b puller]

To add to what the other guys posted. You stated "Manufactured data must be intact".

Many clubs limit the tire size, especially in the lighter classes. There was a big stink quite a while back where people have ground off portions of the tire, like a 13.6-38 will say "replaces 12-38", so they would grind off the "13.6-38" so they could run a bigger tire than the rules allowed. (12 is less than 13.6). These weren't the tires in question, they were bigger ones, but you see the point.

 

[supermpuller]

Lamont thats about clear as mud. There is enough trouble with top-cuts now, you can't touch the front edge of the lug only the top of the lug can be cut. A top cut tire will look just like a road worn tire.

 

[Lamont]

Does top cutting a tire change the leading edge of the lugs? Duh! That's a no-brainer. You can take a tire with lugs that have rounded leading edges and top cut them to make the leading edges sharp. There is a difference in "changing/altering" the leading edge and "cutting" the leading edge. Is that really that hard to understand?

He was evidently needing some clarification or he wouldn't have asked the question.

 

[supermpuller]

If a tire has lugs that have a rounded leading edge you can make the lug shorter but you'll never get the front edge sharp unless its a full cut tire.

 

[Lamont]

When you cut off the top of the lug, the rounded portion is gone because you cut down past that part. Now, the leading edge is sharp again. No. It's not AS sharp as a full cut tire, but the leading edge was altered because the leading edge used to be rounded; not sharp. I really can't believe this is that hard for someone to understand.

 

[Lamont]

Just cut or grind off the top of the lug. That's not considered cutting the leading edge of the lug even though it alters the leading edge. The cut came off the top.

 

[supermpuller]

There is no difference between a road worn tire or a tire spun on cement than a top-cut tire. If you allow one you have to allow all.

 

[Lamont]

I agree, but where are you coming from with that? No one said anything about that, for or against. PULLER7 was evidently confused about how to cut the top of the bar without changing the leading edge because if you shave down the top of the lug, it changes the leading edge. I was just trying to explain that the rule did not say you can't "change" the leading edge of the bar. It says you can't "cut" the leading edge of the bar. Cut from the top; not from the front. That doesn't matter if it's a grinding wheel, planer, concrete, asphalt, etc.

 

[Anonymous-0]

Thanks Lamont and 4010 pllr, that was the way I interpreted the rule too. I just wanted to double check my interpretation.

 

[jd b puller]

Maybe someday the "powers that be" will finally admit that Division II tractors are Pulling Tractors, not farm tractors, and there will just be CUT tires. No arguing about who's top cut, who's road worn, etc.

 

[Anonymous-0]

Surely not? Lamont not clear?

 

[PullingWC]

USAP says no front cut on super farm stock ,that is no front cut of the bar on the tires. Top cut is on top ,front cut cut is front or some may say full cut tires .

 

[Lamont]

Hi Jim. Read a few posts up. The one who asked the question thought my answer was clear enough to say thanks. I've not seen anyone on here bashing you, so please don't try to make this your personal bashing board by making wise cracks about me or anyone else.

 

[Mr. EXXON]

MR.EXXON, MR. EXXON, MR.EXXON, MR. EXXON, MR. EXXON. I new you would love it.

 

[Lamont]

Are you really an adult? That seems more like something a 7th-grader would type on a discussion board.

 

[db990]

great point, those aren't "farm" tractors and the different ways some competitors might want to cut their tires is their theory on what works. Let it go!! In our area we dead weight pull and no team, YET, has the same brand, size or cut. It is evolving that in a couple years everybody will basically be the same as the guys who always win. There are more important issues to be concerned about than how the tires are cut.