Help with tractor expense

[ss55]

Especially since I mowed it three times! LOL

Keep in mind that hunting rights can average $30 per acre per year, or about the same as one mowing per year.

 

[Mcrafty1]

30$ an acre

He's not mowing his lawn, he's asking about hogging through 3 to 7 foot tall God only knows what, hiding unknown obstacles that could reek havoc on man and machine. .

 

[Levibooty]

Keep in mind that hunting rights can average $30 per acre per year, or about the same as one mowing per year.

Again I did not hunt and did not negotiate any hunting priviledges.

 

[560Dennis]

Time and materials is fair way to estimate .

 

[sandcastle1]

Shooting on unimproved property is not worth much. Running equipment, you need to calculate what your time is work and what amount the equipment is worth per hour. $100 per acre seems to be cheap. Was the $350 for 10 acres or 30 acres, you mentioned you had mowed 3 times?

 

[flying belgian]

Shooting on unimproved property is not worth much. Running equipment, you need to calculate what your time is work and what amount the equipment is worth per hour. $100 per acre seems to be cheap. Was the $350 for 10 acres or 30 acres, you mentioned you had mowed 3 times?

I am neither a hunter or a gun owner so help me out here. What is the thrill of shooting your rifle on someone else's property versus shooting it on your own property?

 

[Texasmark]

I am neither a hunter or a gun owner so help me out here. What is the thrill of shooting your rifle on someone else's property versus shooting it on your own property?

If you are in pursuit of a specific game and you have none and he has an abundance that would justify the want!

 

[flying belgian]

If you are in pursuit of a specific game and you have none and he has an abundance that would justify the want!

Oh yes, I can understand that but he said he is just shooting his rifle.

 

[Jim.ME]

If you are in pursuit of a specific game and you have none and he has an abundance that would justify the want!

He has said he only shoots there, not hunts on it. That indicates either he doesn't have land enough, or it is not located where he can shoot on his own land. Either way he is getting use of the land, which has some value.

I don't think either side is 100% right here. Things should have been agreed on first. Were three mowings what the friend requested or what was done by choice? Payment after each mowing would been my choice. At least then the difference in value would have been know before getting into it so deep.

 

[ss55]

Again I did not hunt and did not negotiate any hunting priviledges.

You did mention you have shooting privileges on his land, that is worth something.

 

[Destroked 450]

Again I did not hunt and did not negotiate any hunting priviledges.

I assume you are target shooting are some type of trap/skeet shooting and don’t have enough land or are in a neighborhood where you can not do this on your own land
How often do you shoot, once or twice per year or every weekend?
The 54 hrs you spent mowing was that per mowing or all 3 mowings, although $350 for 10 acres sounds a little low is that amount for one mowing or all 3
There’s a lot of variables here that need answered along with the fact your hourly rate using a smaller tractor with a 5 ft mower should not be equal to my rate using a larger tractor with a 15 ft mower to do the job in 1/3 the time

 

[flying belgian]

He has said he only shoots there, not hunts on it. That indicates either he doesn't have land enough, or it is not located where he can shoot on his own land. Either way he is getting use of the land, which has some value.

I don't think either side is 100% right here. Things should have been agreed on first. Were three mowings what the friend requested or what was done by choice? Payment after each mowing would been my choice. At least then the difference in value would have been know before getting into it so deep.

I am so nieve when it comes to guns.

I guess the confusion is I don't know what "shoots there" means. What is he shooting at? Or is he shooting in the air?
Doesn't seem like you need much land to shoot in the air.

I'm not trying to be argumentive. I know how the term shooting is applied to hunting but he is not hunting. This is something else.

 

[Jim.ME]

I am so nieve when it comes to guns.

I guess the confusion is I don't know what "shoots there" means. What is he shooting at? Or is he shooting in the air?
Doesn't seem like you need much land to shoot in the air.

I'm not trying to be argumentive. I know how the term shooting is applied to hunting but he is not hunting. This is something else.

Target practice or skeet shooting are a couple possibilities. Target shooting is common with many people, including those who reload their own ammo. There may be a good-sized earth berm, which can act as a backstop behind targets, that he takes advantage of. Random shooting of rifles and handguns into the air can lead to bullets and shot falling in unintended places. What goes up is going to come down somewhere. People far from a shooter have been injured and damage done by such a practice. Shotguns with bird/skeet shot is not as high a risk of such happening.

 

[wh]

Target practice or skeet shooting are a couple possibilities. Target shooting is common with many people, including those who reload their own ammo. There may be a good-sized earth berm, which can act as a backstop behind targets, that he takes advantage of. Random shooting of rifles and handguns into the air can lead to bullets and shot falling in unintended places. What goes up is going to come down somewhere. People far from a shooter have been injured and damage done by such a practice. Shotguns with bird/skeet shot is not as high a risk of such happening.

Skeet shooting lots of fun. Couple of places near here that offer a clay bird course. Everybody calls it golf with a shotgun.

 

[flying belgian]

Target practice or skeet shooting are a couple possibilities. Target shooting is common with many people, including those who reload their own ammo. There may be a good-sized earth berm, which can act as a backstop behind targets, that he takes advantage of. Random shooting of rifles and handguns into the air can lead to bullets and shot falling in unintended places. What goes up is going to come down somewhere. People far from a shooter have been injured and damage done by such a practice. Shotguns with bird/skeet shot is not as high a risk of such happening.

Okay I'm starting to catch on. So evidently you need bigger area than 11 acres to do target or skeet shooting? So he does it on the neighbors. Neighbor must have more than 11 acres. What is the minimum required acres to do target or skeet shooting?

 

[sandcastle1]

Okay I'm starting to catch on. So evidently you need bigger area than 11 acres to do target or skeet shooting? So he does it on the neighbors. Neighbor must have more than 11 acres. What is the minimum required acres to do target or skeet shooting?

depends somewhat on state law and how far from a dwelling you are at least in NYS and OH that is part of it.

 

[Jim.ME]

Okay I'm starting to catch on. So evidently you need bigger area than 11 acres to do target or skeet shooting? So he does it on the neighbors. Neighbor must have more than 11 acres. What is the minimum required acres to do target or skeet shooting?

He has not told us how much land he personally has, what type of shooting he does, or his reason for shooting on the friend's 10-12 acres.

 

[Levibooty]

Preparing for an elk hunt. So needed 3-400 yard area with hill behind target to sight in my rifle. I shot that rifle a total of eleven times on his property. He was a hunter as well. I have openly admitted I should have nailed down the agreement first. I just wanted some third party opinion what the rates for bushhogging were usually. Thanks fellows for your input. You've been helpful.

 

[Ray,IN]

In the 1980's I got $35/hr for ordinary rotary mowing with my MF135 and 5' Bush Hog; that included my time walking the field prior to mowing. Luckily I never hit anything that caused any damage.
For such an overgrown field and the hidden dangers involved I would not expect to pay less than $85/hr.

 

[Ericp351]

Do not and will not mow anything except my own property. That said, i figure it cost me a minimum of $50 hour to run my 90 hp tractor and 15 ft batwing mowing my own. Open, level ground in medium growth i can easily mow 3 acres plus an hour. This would be for fuel and wear and tear. IF i was doing it for other people i would not consider anything less than $125 hour. And then i would almost want a guarantee fron person that they would cover any type of tire damage that occurred.

You must read the post better. This is not about a 15' mower, or a 90 HP Tractor, or a bid from a guy who doesn't want the work, et cetera. I'd figure you burn 3 Gal. an hour, so you must be hard on your machines! Practice, practice, practice, and be careful as you learn how to mow properly! Safety first! Good luck.