If you cant beat them join them

[tom upton]

 

[scootergmc]

Was this in reference to the 70?

 

[tom upton]

Not sure if reference to 70 or just an Oliver guy knockin JD . Just something I came across on the net, and thought it was kinda cute poem.

 

[JohnRowehl]

I heard a story about an Oliver loyal farmer that had a JD salesman there to try and sell him a pop-pop. Asked him, “Would you buy a 2 cylinder car?”

 

[oliverkid]

Was this in reference to the 70?

That would be a reference to Deere finally releasing a 6 cylinder tractor in 1960, 25 years after Oliver brought out the 70.

 

[JohnRowehl]

That would be a reference to Deere finally releasing a 6 cylinder tractor in 1960, 25 years after Oliver brought out the 70.

Or IH coming out with a six cylinder with the 560 around that time.

 

[oliverkid]

Or IH coming out with a six cylinder with the 560 around that time.

First Red 6 cylinder was the McCormick WD40. Also 1935.

 

[JohnRowehl]

First Red 6 cylinder was the McCormick WD40. Also 1935.

This one?

 

[Duner Wi]

This one?
View attachment 101541

W40 was 6 cylinder.WD40 was diesel

 

[Saskoliver]

Reminds Me of when I Asked My Neighbor Who is a "Massey Guy", to come over to Help Me pull My skid Steer out of the Mud. Put Him on My Oliver 77, Showed him how the Double "H" Shift Pattern Operated and He Tugged Me out.
Back on the Yard He Asked, "Does it always Run that Smooth"? I just Smiled and said, "Waukesha".

 

[Gambles]

We have a small, yearly tractor show that’s about 10 minutes from where I live. Every year, it’s populated mostly by John Deere and IH. There are very few Olivers there, probably because of something I took. However, more than once, I’ve heard a couple of diehard JD owners talk about how smooth an Oliver 70 runs.
Now, they’d never tell me that, just to each other.

 

[scootergmc]

I don't think either IHC W40 or WD was a row crop tractor, no?

 

[oliverkid]

W40 was 6 cylinder.WD40 was diesel

My bad. Got them backwards.

 

[oliverkid]

I don't think either IHC W40 or WD was a row crop tractor, no?

You’re really starting to split hairs if you’re going by row crop and standard. The 70 could be a row crop, standard, orchard, industrial or airport 25 so which version we going with there?

 

[scootergmc]

You’re really starting to split hairs if you’re going by row crop and standard. The 70 could be a row crop, standard, orchard, industrial or airport 25 so which version we going with there?

I'm not trying to split hairs, and I know what the 70 configurations are. But I seem to recall that at some point they put out literature or marketing material emphasizing that the 70 was the only 6 cylinder row-crop tractor on the market. I'm not saying there weren't other 6 cylinder tractors. There were other smaller brands who had 6 cylinder tractors available. Offhand, I think Avery was one as well. Call it splitting hairs if you want.

 

[tom upton]

I'm not trying to split hairs, and I know what the 70 configurations are. But I seem to recall that at some point they put out literature or marketing material emphasizing that the 70 was the only 6 cylinder row-crop tractor on the market. I'm not saying there weren't other 6 cylinder tractors. There were other smaller brands who had 6 cylinder tractors available. Offhand, I think Avery was one as well. Call it splitting hairs if you want.

I thought they did as well. Thought I might have someting in my old literature, but with a quick look this was all I could find. I will keep looking as I am almost positive I have seen something as to that effect somewhere. Maybe someones old post on this board??

 

[sonnythomas]

We have a small, yearly tractor show that’s about 10 minutes from where I live. Every year, it’s populated mostly by John Deere and IH. There are very few Olivers there, probably because of something I took. However, more than once, I’ve heard a couple of diehard JD owners talk about how smooth an Oliver 70 runs.
Now, they’d never tell me that, just to each other.

Grew up on a farm surrounded by Farmalls, Case and Ford. I thought they were great, even a old Case called Iron Sides (only tractor of the farm with fenders) and another case with huge balloon tires. All 3 Cases were traded in for Minneapolis-Moline 5 and a really awesome tractor. The 5 was sort of squared off and 5 Star had more dazzle.

Moved to town but found work on nearby farm. First John Deere ever saw, 670 I believe it was. Used it for cleaning out barn. Ran great, started great, handled great. That pop, pop everyone seems downplay sounded great to me. Worked for another farmer that had a Farmall 400. Plowing time and I was sent over his son's place. His son had a diesel John Deere. Big. but still a 2 cylinder. Plowing a big field and long hills. I could hear the John Deere fire and wondered if it was going to die, but fire again. It did everything and more than what the 400 did.

Bought my small farm and a Farmall H and Farmall 400. The 400 had end loader, but busted it up. Friend got hold of old John Deere (can't remember model) that had end loader (John Deere end loader). Bought for, I think, $500 or $600. It proved a work horse. Rebuilt a creek crossing with it. Scoped up buckets of dirt that the 400 wouldn't That pop-pop sounded good to me. And then I found that it was a tractor that have got out. It was built during WWII and all John Deere equipment was to go the military, Army I think. Word got around that I had the old John Deere. Man came down asking about. He looked it over and thought it was great shape, wrote down the serial numbers. He came back about a month later and offered me $1500.00 for it. I should have kept it.

Just handful years ago I bought 1964 Oliver 1650 with big heavy end loader. Ran great, compression great, but needed some work and taken care of. Starts before you have the key turned completely, even in zero weather. Okay, sort of proud of it, but it won't dig to save its life, bull dozes great as long as I don't let the bucket tip.

 

[tom upton]

Found this were oliver claims they were the first 6 cylinder? Maybe same year but earlier month?

 

[I550]

Yes. It was the mid 1950's before they figured out an angled steering wheel or one stick transmission shifter or foot clutch.

 

[Dieseltech]

I'm not sure of the years, but MH 101 and 101 Supers had the flathead six Chrysler industrial engines about the same time as the smooth running 70, The later 101 Senior switched to the Continental F 226 or F 244. Same engine was used in the 44-6 starting in 1947. Most four cylinders run OK, but sixes do run smoother..