IH B414 Question

[tjriddle]

Can anyone tell me what size hose is needed to replace the one in the pic? The tube is located on the right side of tractor and runs next to the gear box. I assume the tube flows hydraulic fluid, correct? Do I need to drain the fluid before replacing the hose and clamps?



Thanks, Jim

 

[Jim Becker]

If I'm looking at the right part, the parts catalog says 0.81'' ID x 2.50''. You might want to invest in one of these:
Better Than a Ouija Board!

 

[used red MN]

If I'm looking at the right part, the parts catalog says 0.81'' ID x 2.50''. You might want to invest in one of these:
Better Than a Ouija Board!

“Better Than an Ouija Board” that’s a good one Jim, truer words have never been spoken!

 

[tjriddle]

If I'm looking at the right part, the parts catalog says 0.81'' ID x 2.50''. You might want to invest in one of these:
Better Than a Ouija Board!

Thank you

 

[Janicholson]

Thank you

Messicks parts diagram Welcome to YT forums and PartsASAP
That hose and clamps are a repair that doesn't work. The steel line had a leak, and was repaired as pictured. That section of steel line can be replaced if you can find one. It can be repaired by using a welded coupling. A temporary solution is to remove the patch, clean both pipe ends at the break for 4 inches each way to bare metal and use a hydraulic rated hose, and two band style hose clamps (not worm type) on each side, to assure no suction leak (4 total). It is a suction pipe and probably is sucking air in operation and leaking when shut off. Jim

 

[JimB2]

Welcome to YT, that piece of hose is required to clean/replace the hydraulic suction filter and drain the hydraulic reservoir on the older B414, later versions had a drain on the lower right rear of the reservoir. See photo below.
If you put the rear wheels in a ditch with front end up it will minimize the loss of hydraulic oil.
The other method is to make an adapter for your shop-vac to fit in the reservoir filler plug hole behind the seat, turn on shop-vac then loosen hose clamps on the hose and slide it forward on the steel line far enough to clear the joint, then using visegrips or pliers close to the suction filter at the reservoir turn the pipe upwards until the pipe on the suction filter clears the pipe that has the hose on it. Be careful not to crush the pipe on the suction filter. As someone else posted, probably a good time to clean or replace suction filter, it will come straight out, there is only an O-ring holding it in, on the older models, newer models had a small clip on the front, bolted to the reservoir housing.

 

[tjriddle]

Welcome to YT, that piece of hose is required to clean/replace the hydraulic suction filter and drain the hydraulic reservoir on the older B414, later versions had a drain on the lower right rear of the reservoir. See photo below.
If you put the rear wheels in a ditch with front end up it will minimize the loss of hydraulic oil.
The other method is to make an adapter for your shop-vac to fit in the reservoir filler plug hole behind the seat, turn on shop-vac then loosen hose clamps on the hose and slide it forward on the steel line far enough to clear the joint, then using visegrips or pliers close to the suction filter at the reservoir turn the pipe upwards until the pipe on the suction filter clears the pipe that has the hose on it. Be careful not to crush the pipe on the suction filter. As someone else posted, probably a good time to clean or replace suction filter, it will come straight out, there is only an O-ring holding it in, on the older models, newer models had a small clip on the front, bolted to the reservoir housing.


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Thanks so much for the tip

 

[wore out]

Thanks so much for the tip

You should be able to get a short length of 7/8" hydraulic suction/return hose from a hydraulics shop reasonably.

 

[tjriddle]

If I'm looking at the right part, the parts catalog says 0.81'' ID x 2.50''. You might want to invest in one of these:
Better Than a Ouija Board!

Jim, is the parts catalog available online or for download?

 

[Janicholson]

Jim, is the parts catalog available online or for download?

Messicks.com will take you to the Site that has Parts diagrams. Start with going to "All Parts" in red to the left of the splash page/home. Choose CASEIH, Then Tractors, Then International Tractors, Then 12 up from the last entry right column, find B414, next choose the system you want to inspect, then choose the diagram specific to that. Jim

 

[Jim Becker]

Jim, is the parts catalog available online or for download?

Here is a link to the online one at Messicks. I'm not sure if it is a dynamic link or if it will actually work for you. You can try it. If it works, it is the same place Jim's instructions send you to. If it doesn't work, the steps Jim spelled out certainly will.

Case IH B414 - INTERNATIONAL DIESEL TRACTOR(01/61 - 12/66) Parts Diagrams

Case IH Parts Catalog Lookup. Buy Case IH Parts Online & Save!

www.messicks.com

 

[Kevinwterry]

This is on my b275, the little brother to the b414. Some parts actually are interchangeable. I figured it was a farmer fix like mentioned before. It's on the non pressurized side of the hydraulic pump so I can see it as being a drain or tractor split connection

 

[wore out]

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This is on my b275, the little brother to the b414. Some parts actually are interchangeable. I figured it was a farmer fix like mentioned before. It's on the non pressurized side of the hydraulic pump so I can see it as being a drain or tractor split connection

What, exactly, is your question?

The hose connects the hydraulic pump intake tube to the nipple on the front of the hydraulic oil screen/filter in the base of the hitch control mechanism.

What more can be said?