Illinois ITPA

[Anonymous-0]

Can someone tell me the rules for the 5500 classic class in ITPA

Thanks

 

[Anonymous-0]

They have a website that should have all class rules or a contact person. AJB

 

[Lenny Kirby]

Stock appearing, 10% over rated RPM, stock block, head, manifold, carb., 15.5x38" tire limit, no gear or speed limit, no cube limit, can use the electronic points replacement, gas/diesel only, 11 foot from center of rear total length, correct frontend, kill switch, and rpm pickup for rpm's on sled while going down track.. thats the basic's there is more online
www.itpapulling.com

 

[Anonymous-0]

ya forgot 53 and older for classic, 39 older antique.not much for rules on site, but call or email miller,he will send ya out a rulebook. its a big class looking like 19+ tractors for 08

 

[Anonymous-0]

THIS CLASS RESEMBLES THE USAP MOD STOCK 3MPH CLASS, EXCEPT IN ITPA THEY PULL ANY GEAR, TRACTORS ARE MAKING THE SAME HORSEPOWER, BUT RUN REALLY SLOW...EXCEPT LENNY HE CAN PULL 3RD GEAR!! WOW!! PUTT PUTT BANG BANG..OH, ANOTHER F30 BLOCK JUNKED!!

 

[Anonymous-0]

please send lenny an F30 that'll make it thru one season, he has to beat a G with about 80 h.p....and others that are the same as they were in the 1970's....

 

[Lenny Kirby]

LOL Yep you guys really got me pegged!! I'm BUSTED!!! I pull and antique tractor thats different from everyone else's.. Its true I pull in third gear, its true we trashed a block, its true we can pull any gear... Like Paul Harvey here is "The Rest Of the Story". Third gear is faster than stock road gear, the block trashed because a rod decided to come apart from a builder in Iowa we don't use anymore. Yes we didn't make it through last year because we actually try and make the tractor better but it doesn't always work out. If your a tractor puller I imagine you have gone through the same things. The real truth is we are tractor pullers just like every other tractor puller. My guess is you either are not a puller or have been beat by me.. Or other ITPA tractors in the past. Post your name like I do maybe we'll find out..

 

[Anonymous-0]

well "real truth", ive never pulled usap mod 3 mph class but apparently there are a tough class! 500+ cube m's in 1st and 2nd over in the 9 sp...and 88's pulling 5th gear, all at 10%over rpms.them some tough boys. i dont think you know what the hell your talking about.

 

[Anonymous-0]

A 3.5mph tractor is what every 1 of those ITPA tractors would be if they ever pulled outside of their 5-6 hooks per summer. What is the point of building something to such out-dated rules that you can't go and be competitive anywhere else in the open classes? Look at the results from Jackson, MO last year, what's holding up the bottom of 4500-5500 Division IV? A 500+ cube ITPA M!! I bet he was in high 1 or 2 also!!

 

[Lenny Kirby]

I have pulled outside ITPA with my ITPA tractor.. Guess what I didn't finish last.. Div.IV and I was in the same gear. Tony's M is just like all the others out there in USAP/NATPA just with smaller tires and slower RPM's all he has to do is switch tires and turn it up and away he goes.. Your the crazy one.. oh yeah when he wins he gets $200 EVERY show not just a handful here and there. I got a first and third at a USAP pull couple years ago got $50.(8mph classes) Not complaining I had a good time and it was a pull and it was cash..

 

[Anonymous-0]

Naturally Lenny you're wrong again...There's a bigger difference than just tires and rpms, try ignition, carburators (sp) and probably almost 100 cubic inch to be competitive with Bakers big engines! You are right however that he is like every other M with USAP/NATPA, the one's that pull in Farm Stock/Division 2! He needs to take off the cut tires and lower his drawbar, then he'd be competitive outside ITPA!

 

[Lenny Kirby]

Just who do you think built his M?

 

[Anonymous-0]

That only proves my point even more! Even Gary can't build something competitive with his other tractors using that organizations rules! A tractor he built that finished 2nd last year in ITPA's points can't sniff his Division IV M's it pulled against at Jackson! Also, is it that hard to turn your tractors up to 20% over and buy a set of 18.4X38 tires or is it more fun to get last and say "I was only turning 10% over"?

 

[Lenny Kirby]

Yes when insurance companies get involved. I don't know about Tony (he's a good guy he might tell you) but I personally use the winter pulls to make sure my ITPA tractor is running right for the ITPA pulls in the summer time. Doesn't matter to me what place I get with that one in the winter time. It's more fun when guys like you let guys like us do our thing then we'll let you do your thing..

 

[Anonymous-0]

well guys, i see ive made the board, im within, lets call it close cubes of baker"s blk m, was running 10% over rpm"s,14.9"s, and no big carb,etc..itpa spec.. i just got the tractor back together on some upgrades from the year before. i do have the big parts for when im brush"n but dont brush much anymore. i went down to jackson to c where the tractor needed to be for 07 itpa. i still didnt have it dial"d in in june, at decateur got 4th from last there, and dead last at cerro gordo. Am i proud of them hooks....no..then we found the tune and won 3 and got a sec and 3rd in next 5 hooks...i will prob.have a tractor down at jackson n 2weeks. another m, will b down there tuning for 08 itpa, just so everyone is clear. does our class need upgrades?yes..maybe, but then there would be 40+ tractors in the class and ruin it. our organization works,we have 20+ tractors, and more and more hooks each year.i have no desire to drive 4+ hours to pull for brush money, and im not going to tear up my points tractors to pull natpa or brush.g/l to all

 

[Anonymous-0]

btw, the classics had 15 hooks last year.....hardly 5-6...you guys are really great, top shelf all the way. why the hate for itpa? we sure in the hell arent lobbying to get more tractors, 20 is enough.
A guy simply asked for rules, and then some guys have got to get it started. Itpa works very hard to keep rules as close to what they are now, it may not make for the most powerful tractors around, but them are our rules, and we tech our tractors to make sure they are followed...we pull our rules, you pull yours....its really that simple...

 

[Lenny Kirby]

Tony its good to hear from you how was your holiday's? My wife and I had a bad week but it can't get any worse so its got to get better. I look forward to seeing the new wheels!!! These guys just don't "get" it.. They never will. This guy seems to know everything about ITPA so he's either pulled it or looked into pull there and had problems doing it. I'm guessing he is a former ITPA puller that lost alot. But that is only speculation. If he would post his name I could tell you. I'll agree the antique class is really dieing but your class is on the rise big time!! I have a feeling we'll be doing something different in a year or two. It will still be red but it will probably blow black smoke. You can bet it will be in the ITPA. The oldest organization running today.

 

[jim johnson]

Just curious. Why would more tractors ruin it?

Jim

 

[Anonymous-0]

too long of show, we pull at county fairs. no body wants to watch 35 of the same tractors go down the track in same class, for 2 hours. we have a 9500 farm stock class that use to be the same way, 20 1066"s go down the track.people loose interest. we are not the big show, we are the tractors that get the green track ready for the prostock,superfarm,semi,etc. everyone in our class/stands knows that. Antique"s, at least in our area, only have a select group that will watch them,let alone for 2 hours, and they are not the ones spending money in the bear tents or buying chops for a family. next pull as you pull on the track take a look at the stands ask yourself,is this class worth $600-800 to the promoters. i help put on a pull myself, and have to worry bout the same things.not putting down the fair promoters, just there is a bottom line that needs to be weighd in.

 

[Anonymous-0]

LENNY--wake up--wow, $200 you pull 7-12 times, pull like our USAP mod tractor (3mph)..go anywhere else and get your butt kicked!! you are a dork!!! it is 2008 son, ! parade the F30-pull something real

 

[Lenny Kirby]

First of all i'm not your son if I was i'd put a bullet in my head. If you know me so well where do you know me from? Be a man. Yeah i'm a dork that likes to pull F-30's so what? So far i'd say its better than being you.