JD 4430 six volt problem

[Anonymous-0]

My 1977 4430 tractor came out with two six volt batteries and I am forever having problems with them. I have tried several different brands and they will last for a few days and go bad. I guess I need to convert to two 12 volt batteries. Anyone have this problem. What should I do?

 

[Anonymous-0]

You need some very basic training in electrical stuff. If you really have two six volt batteries now, you can't automatically change to two twelve volt batteries. Get some help from somebody that understands what is happening. I don't know the electrical system on a 4430 so I can't help you with specifics.

 

[tim s]

It should work properly with the two 6 volts, have you checked to see if you have something drawing the battery down?,,if you do it will also drain the 12 volt ones the same way.

 

[Craig C]

You might check the cable that goes over the clutch housing. This is the link that makes your two six volt batteries a big 12volt battery. We've got several Waterloo tractors and some have two sixes and some have two 12 volt batteries and I am not going to say that one is better than the other. With hot batteries, a good starter, and good cables they will all start the same. Both styles require those three things. If you have a battery draw, put a master disconnect on it, just make sure it is a heavy disconnect to carry the current when starting the tractor.

 

[Tx Jim]

uff dah
Two 12V's can be installed in place of two 6V's simply by hooking the 12's in parallel rather than in a series. JD did this on later model tractors such as my 4255.

 

[thurlow]

Do what, now?????? I'm kinda challenged........not only electrically........,but I thought you could.

 

[teddy52food]

Why not ?????

 

[Anonymous-0]

Thanks all you techs. I don't seem to have a battery drain. I have bought about six six volt batteries in the last month. The warranty was still good so all it cost me was my labor which is cheap. My question: are six volt batteries just not made as well as 12 volta. Thanks Roy

 

[buickanddeere]

Unless the 6V batteries are production duds or have been ruiend from sitting discharged.
A 6V battery of equal physical size has fewer and larger more robust components.
The charging and or cable problem is suspect on that 4430. Wouldn't be the 1st time a 4430 had 6V or 24V applied to the starter.

 

[skip33652]

way back in 1979 or 1980 we were having battery and starter problems with a 4230 and 4430 we put starters on then batteries then repeat always bying cheap farm store batteries. The john deere service manager told my dad "why dont you try a set of Deere batteries"

we have not bought one starter since . the 4440's have 10,000 hours on them.plus the combine 4960 2510 4010 4640.

are deere batteries better? I don't know but they almost always last 7-10 years and we haven't bought starters. Paul

 

[tim s]

I get a couple a year in here with the wrong battery in them, wired for 24 volt,,they start "Great", but the lights are all blown out and the radio won't work,,most of the time the counter person gives them the wrong battery and the customer don't know the difference....Darn it

 

[Anonymous-0]

As some of you have suggested I bought a JD six volt battery and installed it. The tractor started right off. I still have one of the cheaper batteries on the other side. I WILL REPLACE IT WITH A jd BATTERY AS SOON AS IT GETS WEAK. rHANKS ALL YOU TECHS. rOY

 

[buickanddeere]

(quoted from post at 11:53:25 04/19/11) As some of you have suggested I bought a JD six volt battery and installed it. The tractor started right off. I still have one of the cheaper batteries on the other side. I WILL REPLACE IT WITH A jd BATTERY AS SOON AS IT GETS WEAK. rHANKS ALL YOU TECHS. rOY

Caution using miss matched batteries. When the weaker battery fails and is pushed into cell reversal by the stronger battery. The weak battery may make a nasty "boom" sound.