JD530 baler balling/plugging issues

[Michael Sheik]

I have owned and used this baler for 3 years and for the first time yesterday it kept wanting to plug up when first starting a bale. I was baling Old World Bluestem hay approx 1.5 to 2 feet tall when cut. I was very dry so that could be the problem. It got worse as the day went on and in the heavier windrows. I tried creeping into the row to start and that didn't help. I could always tell when it was going to ball up as the hay would instantly flip up and pile up on top of the compressor rack rods. Hay was always wrapped around the bottom beater roller(the one with the cross bars on it. I tried setting the compressor rack rods closer to the feeder house and didn't help. Anybody ran into this or have suggestions.

 

[camju]

I used a 535 that was new and when we got it in roto thrashed tinnothy it did the same thing. I ended up pulling out the hold down bars and start the bale in the middle at lower rpm(1200) let the middle get a good start and then fill the sides. the only other thing was wait till a little humidity came and it wasn't as slippery.

I don't know if 530 is simmalar to 535.hope this helps

 

[Tx Jim]

Michael Sheik
Are most of the teeth in pickup and is it only as low as necessary to pick up hay?

Next weld rough beads on leading(rear when gate is open) edge of rectangular bars on metal starter roll.

Check condition and tightness of pick up drive belt.

How many steps do forming belts have? New they had three(3).

 

[Anonymous-0]

I have a JD 466 round baler that gave me that problem with the starter roll. I put a new chain on (the long one) and welded a bead on the spiral section of pick up roller. All this seemed to help, however, I have had at least two plug ups since then.

 

[Michael Sheik]

All of the teeth are there. They are wore about 1/2 inch shorter than new ones. Belts for most part have 2 steps. Never thought that that drive belt could be slipping so will check and probably replace. I am a welder so I can handle welding the beads.
I was stacking the bales this evening and not pleased with some of them. The twine on one side is coming off for about a foot back from edge. Reading the manual they talk about a possible missing or bent twine guide rod. Haven"t checked that but will.It also says another possible cause is dry slick crops. That was definitely true.

 

[David from Kansas]

The only problem I can remember on our 530 and 535 balers starting a bale was in wheat straw when it was extremely dry with the temperature about 100 degrees. Had to wait till morning when there was a little humidity, then worked like it should.

 

[Tx Jim]

(quoted from post at 22:27:43 07/22/10)
I was stacking the bales this evening and not pleased with some of them. The twine on one side is coming off for about a foot back from edge. Reading the manual they talk about a possible missing or bent twine guide rod. Haven"t checked that but will.It also says another possible cause is dry slick crops. That was definitely true.

Which side is falling off. This is the guide OM is referring to.
AE42677 GUIDE AR X X (1 USED ON L.H., 430) (2 USED, 530)

 

[Michael Sheik]

Left hand side when setting in tractor seat.

 

[Michael Sheik]

Just wanting to make sure I am visualizing correctly what you are calling the leading edge. With gate open(locked naturally) and standing back there it would be the side of the bar closest to me.

 

[Hay Dr]

Worn belts have trouble starting dry hay. What is the age & condition of the belts? Sounds like you will have to wait for the dew so you can start a bale.

 

[Tech 7]

As mentioned in other posts back off the pto speed to let the bale get started then go back up to pto speed. Around here (SW Ontario) I have had customers remove the compressor rack to help with plugging issues....it seems to help a lot and is simple. Bob

 

[430WLPG]

My son had the same trouble with his 535, he welded beads and then little strap with a good square corner on the starter roller even painted it with that nonskid paint and that would work until all that shined up.And his belts still had two steps , but they were hard. We installed a set of new kevlar belts and a new style starter roller the slates on it swirl instead of straight across and now it will bale as fast as you dare to go . Never anymore starting trouble

 

[Tx Jim]

(quoted from post at 08:00:26 07/23/10) Just wanting to make sure I am visualizing correctly what you are calling the leading edge. With gate open(locked naturally) and standing back there it would be the side of the bar closest to me.

The starter roll turns from top to bottom towards tail gate so yes weld on each bar edge that faces you when bar is at top of roller. I also weld a bead 14" long on each side halfway between bars to try to give extra grip to help start bales in extra dry conditions. This helps keep dry hay from running up belts in front of baler.

 

[Chuck Daniels]

Baled 1000s of bales with 530, great machines. weld quarter inch key stock on where others suggest awelded bead,put inch welds about every 8 inchs,this prevents roller fr om getting to hot.also put new teeth in pickup if needed,put her in gear and go like normal.

 

[Michael Sheik]

Yep Jim,
That left side twine guide is bent down compared to the other. Time for a little attitude adjustment.