John Deere 2010

[James Williams]

I am new to this forum.This is the first time I have ever heard of 6 people saying the same thing about a tractor.I never thought any tractor manufactor made a lemon.Is this really a bad peice of equiptment,or has people negelected them.I am a Farmall collector but I love tractors in general,and I will say Ive been disapponited in the 2 cylinder JD,becaues of there thin sheetmetal and problems developed through the years with crankshaft,flywheel,and clutch wear,But the 2010 was after the fact of older engineering,and my opinion should be able to be restored back to a good,and reliable tractor as it once was,or should have been

jimmy

 

[jd b puller]

(quoted from post at 10:51:00 11/11/10) I am new to this forum.This is the first time I have ever heard of 6 people saying the same thing about a tractor.I never thought any tractor manufactor made a lemon.Is this really a bad peice of equiptment,or has people negelected them.I am a Farmall collector but I love tractors in general,and I will say Ive been disapponited in the 2 cylinder JD,becaues of there thin sheetmetal and problems developed through the years with crankshaft,flywheel,and clutch wear,But the 2010 was after the fact of older engineering,and my opinion should be able to be restored back to a good,and reliable tractor as it once was,or should have been

jimmy

Jimmy, from what I've read the 2010 wasn't a "good" tractor when it was new.

 

[EScottUtz]

James,
I"ve got a 2010 Diesel and I"m very happy with it. It does a good job and other than normal maintenance, it hasn"t caused me any problems. I had to fix a few oil leaks when I got it, but it has run trouble free for the last 3 years.

 

[Ray]

If you got a good one you couldn't tear it up,if you got a bad one you couldn't fix it.

 

[Jake Winn]

James-The 2010 probably overall wasnt a success due to the big design change from the two cylinders. The design of the engine used in the 1010 and 2010 had been out since the mid 50's when Deere was producing 4 cylinder engines for power units. But the diesel engine was new for the 1010-2010. These engines were a indirect injection style, with glow plugs. They could be very hard to start, especially if batterys were in poor condition. There were other issues with hydraulics not working properly and leaking. It seems that the 2010 was worse off than the 1010, which used more parts of the proven Dubuque two cylinders.

As others have said, it seems that a customer either got a bad one, or an OK one. With maybe a few good ones that lasted due to exceptional care. If you find a "fixer upper" chances are its because its not worth fixing. Stay away.

Im not sure what you mean about Deeres having thin sheet metal. The flywheel/crankshaft problems were due to poor care by owners. It was something that should be checked from time to time, just like any other part of a machine, of any brand.

Every brand had thier good and bad, and even the best model of any color had to have a lemon from time to time. Still happens today.

 

[Josh in MI]

I have spent a fair amount of time on a 2010 gas raking hay. It was about the easiest starting and quietest tractor I have used. I actually liked it. The brakes really sucked though, seemed like a person would need 2 legs per pedal. My biggest complaint is that I was not running the 4010...

Maybe hard work like plowing tears them up? From what I heard from the old-time dealers, the farmers who traded in 8Ns and Fergusons for 2010s loved them.

It seems like a person who has trouble with a machine is far more vocal than a satisfied owner is. People bash International ta's all the time (but somehow a Super MTA seems above the criticism), people bash Ford SOS trannies, Case o Matics, etc.

 

[DONMYEIL]

If you had one in the shop , about 10 minutes was all it took to hate everyone of them.

 

[JDemaris]

2010, or even a 1010 is a lot more tractor then any N series Ford, VAC Case, etc. On the other hand, they are much less tractors then the 1020s and 2020s (Deere) that followed them.

Now, if I had to choose between a Ford 600 or thousand series (with live PTO and power steering) - or a Deere 1010 with the same - I'd take the Ford due to the great parts availability.

I suspect that at some point in time, 1010s and 2010s are going to be very collectable - especially diesls.

The 1010 and 2010 series had many firsts for Deere Company. Wet-sleeve deck engines. Rotary injection pumps in the diesels. Positive valve-seals on the valve stems. Power-reversers (1010 crawler) and power HL-R (2010 crawler).

1010 and 2010 crawlers, gas or diesel are good machines. Farm tractors and industrial wheel tractors - a few short comings - especially lack of brakes that never worked well - even when new.
Lack of aftermarket parts support has never been very good either.

I worked for many Deere dealers and can't say I ever regarded the 1010/2010 series as overall-bad.

I've got a 1010 crawler and love it. If I had a chance to get a 1010 wheel tractor - cheap - I'd grab it. That being said, the 20 series offers much, much more and also, much better parts support for everything. Excellent hydraulics, great power brakes, current-series engines (300 series), etc.

 

[Anonymous-0]

Had a 2010 for about 10 yrs and thought it was a pretty good tractor. Sold it to get a much heavier JD for a loader. So far as restoring, if you want one buy the best one you can find as parts may be scarce and as with a lot of these old tractors you easily get more money in them than they are worth.

 

[Tx Jim]

(quoted from post at 09:51:00 11/11/10) I am a Farmall collector but I love tractors in general,and I will say Ive been disapponited in the 2 cylinder JD,becaues of there thin sheetmetal and problems developed through the years with crankshaft,flywheel,and clutch wear,jimmy

I suppose you've never heard of Farmall's having any problems with their Torque Amplifiers and the transmissions?????

Just which model 2 cylinders do you classify as having "thin sheet metal"????

Most of the 2 cyl flywheel problems were on the higher HP and diesel models.

 

[James Williams]

Ive seen a lot of A & b with holes rusted completly through,If you look on e bay theres more reproduced hoods and grills than new ones,The same year farmalls has sheet metal thats just about impossible to straighten becaues of its strength.As far as transmissions maybe the 560,had a lot of recalls,and the T/A after 30-50 years there still alot thats never been replaced,Most of there problems were clutches.Im not putting JD down at all they do have a lot of good points

jimmy

 

[Tx Jim]

(quoted from post at 10:49:36 11/12/10)If you look on e bay theres more reproduced hoods and grills than new ones,jimmy

The reason you see a lot of reproduction JD hoods is because farmers elected to butcher them to R&R the muffler. They cut a hole rather than spend time R&R hood to replace muffler. I'll promise if one looks at the hatchet job on a hood hole the metal wasn't THIN.

 

[Loren NC]

I own a 1010 that does what I need it to do so I don't try to trash the 1010s and 2010s as many others do, but I do feel it is fair to those who ask to repeat what my dealer said about them right after he refused to work on the hydraulics on my 1010. He said those two tractors came the closest to driving J-D into bankruptcy as anything they have ever done and that the only thing worse than either of them with gas engines was either one with diesel. He added that there were few spare parts available at the time they were manufactured and fewer available now. 'Nuf said?

 

[onestout]

Thanks for the input Loren. When they say it has bad hydraulics what do they mean? Which part of the system fails and is there a fix for it ie replacement parts that work better than the original.