John Deere A

RickyW

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What's the biggest cubic inch A out in the pulling world. I have a 39 A and thinking about bumping it up a tad!! Thanks
 
With a casted block I would imagine 672 ci which is 6.75 by 9.375. If they made a block out of steel then I believe I have heard of one around 720 maybe bigger
 
I have 530 now and it does well. I built it to pull in lighter classes(4500#-5500#)but never could get it to bite and lug. 7500# is where it does the best but I pull against some tough stuff at that point!
 
(quoted from post at 01:28:29 01/29/12) With a casted block I would imagine 672 ci which is 6.75 by 9.375. If they made a block out of steel then I believe I have heard of one around 720 maybe bigger

what was the one Shawn Wiens built years ago? 7 x 10.5" or something along those lines. Billet crank, moved the cam, etc.
 
(quoted from post at 17:17:18 01/29/12)
(quoted from post at 01:28:29 01/29/12) With a casted block I would imagine 672 ci which is 6.75 by 9.375. If they made a block out of steel then I believe I have heard of one around 720 maybe bigger

what was the one Shawn Wiens built years ago? 7 x 10.5" or something along those lines. Billet crank, moved the cam, etc.
No your thinking of Kent Huwe's A, 10.5 by 7 808CI. It is not currently together.
 
Is this the A your thinking about? This pic was taken at the Lincoln NATPA pull in '06.

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(quoted from post at 09:39:03 01/30/12) The A in the picture is/was Dave Cambell's out of Loveland, CO. Steve Wiens was the builder.

Knew Weins built it but cant remember what the name of the tractor was when he owned it.
 
The A in the pic figured out to 726cu. in.(whatever that makes the size but I believe the bore was one of the first 6.75 built.) In my opinion, if a guy wants to pull up with the big boys at 7500, get a G, I'd never have pulled "Big Jugs over" 6500lbs. You could just hear it banging from the pounding it was taking. My choice I guess-put enough time and money into it the first time, didn't care to have to do it all again.
 
I never saw Dave ever pull L.S. much over 4500#. Usually he pulled 4000 & 4250 Division III. Maybe he was smarmer than us that threw all of the weights. How's the warmer winter treating you Dale?
 
We pull a bone stock B in 6500 & never finish last.......
If it can't LUG, its just a slug......
What good is all that torque/hp if you never hook it to the track & use it?
I never understood pulling light :s
 
ok....you're comparing apples to oranges in a way. No doubt you are talking about a straight 6 speed B. I'd weight that thing up til there was no more room to put weights on it too. But, it's all STOCK. No welded parts or parts ground thinner to make for clearance. I know where the weaknesses were in my tractor and that was when it had to work that hard for longer periods of time. Not the first and only one I built. Whydo you think the guys with the big strokers have the tie bars on them from case to frame? It's because the front of their case has nothing left near the bolt holes-and to keep the front end down you need lots of weight which now makes the stress point on the case, where the block and frame bolt on. I ran my A "once" with 1,000lbs way out at NATPA legal limit on front and it came up and at end of pul;l I had to clutch it and when it came down it bent the bracket-and it was 1/2"x4". If not for the tie bars I'm sure I'd have had an articulating tractor. as they say..my .06 worth:)
 
It's been nice Tim! How've you been? I was going to take in a few pulls down here, but haven't made it to any yet. Seems there is always somebody figuring there is a better way than the tried and true way to build a tractor huh? lol. I guess experience is the best teacher.
 
Good. Too many projects, not enough time. Has been too nice to work inside. Yep, seems like everyone has a better idea. Tough to beat cubic inches. I had 1400# on the front of the "little" A in Sigourney last year in 5500 & the front still came up to high. Still managed to better quite a few other tractors in the final. My wife has a GM for the heavier classes anyhow. Come down to IA in March, good times. We need somemore strong green ones down there!
 
Never got to see Kent's run in person, too bad! Would have liked to see it in Lincoln in Division 4!
 
(quoted from post at 11:55:03 01/30/12) The A in the pic figured out to 726cu. in.(whatever that makes the size but I believe the bore was one of the first 6.75 built.) In my opinion, if a guy wants to pull up with the big boys at 7500, get a G, I'd never have pulled "Big Jugs over" 6500lbs. You could just hear it banging from the pounding it was taking. My choice I guess-put enough time and money into it the first time, didn't care to have to do it all again.

I'd agree with you Dale, for the same money you could build a way bigger G.
One thing I don't understand. How did you hear all the banging Jugs was making over the horn from breaking the speed limit?? :lol:
 
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAH! ReedA, your'e sooo funny! and for those not counting-it was only 7 times I got DQ'd for speed! Just showed nobody else had the power to run 5500, 6000, in 3rd gear with 18.4's-that's how I looked at it. Enjoy your day at work buddy-I'm not! (working that is:))
 
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