John Deere GM

[Anonymous-0]

is a 1947 john deere GM worth more as a flat back, or with pto and hyd? how many flat backs came out back then alot? have chance to buy a flat back for $1800 stuck thanks bigtom72

 

[rick deere]

Well if it has a flat back all you can do is pull a wagon,if it has a lift you can use differant tools, now you tell me. Id prefur a tractor I could use.

 

[Green Envy]

I bought a 1946 GM last year. You sure its a GM? Thought they had moved back to the G in 1947. My GM has a PTO and is a flat back. But it has an aftermarket live hydraulic pump with 2 outlets which from a usability standpoint, is better then what JD offered at the time.

 

[PopinJohn]

Out of all the G's I've ever seen here in the states, I've only seen a few flatbacks, powr-trol w/PTO much more common.
The last GM was s/n 22112, built 3/10/47, shipped to Minneapolis.
The first early styled G (round pan seat) was s/n 23000, built 3/07/47 exported, last 25671 built 7/29/47 to Raleigh, NC.
First late styled G (battery box seat) was s/n 26000. built 7/30/47, shipped to Raleigh, NC.
Many collectors regard the early styled G's 23000-25671, as more rare. If it was a factory flatback, that would be a bonus. I have also seen a flatback with the battery box pads for the late styled G.
MShelby

 

[Anonymous-0]

serial # is 19115 must be a 1946 instead and it does have pto so it's not a true flat back right? a true flat back has neither pto or hyd. right? bigtom72

 

[PopinJohn]

I have a true flatback for a JD B that has the bearing for the PTO, and I'm thinking if there isn't a PTO shaft that a welch plug is installed instead of the outer seal, so the casting itself would be the same.
I've always thought flatback meant no power lift and no rockshaft.
MShelby

 

[rick deere]

no true, Ive got an 37 A with flat back and has pto., And I had a 720 with flat back cover no pto, but had rock shaft. So it can go either way depends what tractor,

 

[Douglas Zahradnik]

I was under the understanding that flat back refered to no rockshaft or highdrolics.We have a 38A that is a flat back and it has the pto.I would think if you can buy a GM or a G for 1800 buck I would do it.getting the engine unstuck will be a challange.But one that can be done.If you restore the GM you should be able to resell it for alot more than 1800. I would jump all over it for 1800. And as far as useful? Well most of the older John Deeres are more of a big mans toy than something you would use daily to farm with.So buy it and fix it up.

 

[gtx1967jewison]

they all had pto. a flat back just means no rockshaft/hyd.

 

[Green Envy]

Are GM's worth that much?? $1,800 is what I paid for mine too but all it needs is new tires.

 

[kendak]

a GM has "GM" on the tag where a regular styled "G" just has "G" before the serial #...BTW running styled "G's" won't bring over $1000 or $1200 at the most ...now a US "G" thats another ball game..I got [1] GM & [2] G's that I'd like to trade for [1] US "G" in any condition!!