Just interested

[Bill from Scotland]

I was pulling a few trees a couple of weeks ago with my Massey 97 fwa, just used a chain and applied some strain until they begang moving then just gently pulled them the last couple of inches. This really did challenge the old thing (wheel grip that is even in 4x4)she was fine on power. I had already tried my modern International 784 but she just stood looking at the trees with her wheel spinning.
Anyway what I wondered was how good were these MF 97 tractors in the day either as two or four wheel drive.
I have been to a couple of tractor pulls when visiting the US and seem to remember things like JD830 being almost unstopable. How did the MF compare with the JD or even the Case 930. What other models would out pull the 97?
As I said just interested.

 

[IaGary]

Any tractor of equal horse power with fwa that weighs more will out pull your 97.

It's all about getting the weight balanced right to pull at it's max. Then when you increase the HP you need to increase the weight as well to out pull a smaller tractor that is weighted right.

Don't know the rated HP of all the tractors you mentioned but I'll pick the heaviest one with low enough gears to win.

Was your 784 lighter than the 97? Is the 784 a 2 wheel drive then that is not a fair comparison.

 

[Bill from Scotland]

Forgot to add a couple of pictures.

 

[Anonymous-0]

Thats a good looking old beast. I would love to have one.

 

[Old Roy]

Good old tractor there, but it darn near killed ya .
we used to whack trees off about four foot off the ground haul them out in two pieces. guess ya havn't got a good limb whoopin yet.

 

[geok]

Just after I sold my MF97, I got a phone call from a fellow that was with the circus that was coming to town. He had heard I had a big 4 wheel drive tractor and was wanting me to bring it out to help the elephants pull the semis onto the muddy soft field where they were setting up tents. I gave him the phone number of the fellow I sold it to but he never did go out to help.

 

[flying belgian]

That hood looks to be 25 ft. long.

 

[H H]

hook your cable or chiin higher up the tree next time they pull over much easier.

 

[bob old iron]

scotland's version of tractor pulling, lol

 

[Harold H]

The Massey Ferguson 97 was a big tough standard tractor built 1962, 1963, and 1964. Shipping weight for a four wheel drive with no weights or ballast was 8780 pounds. It was actually the same as the Minn-Moline G706 with different sheet metal and had a massive M-M 504 cubic inch engine. The Nebraska test of the G706 yealded 89.19 dbhp and 101.68 ptohp. The MF97 was not tested seperately at Nebraska and used the M-M G706 test results. You mention the Case 930. The Case Comfort King 930 Diesel (which came out in 1965)standard/wheatland had a shipping weight about the same, 8765 pounds, but its Nebraska test #918 yielded 76.0 dbhp and 85.39 ptohp. The earlier 930 from 1960 to 1964 tested #741 71.92 dbhp and 80.65 ptohp. The John Deere 820 and 830 both used the Nebraska test results from the JD 820 test #632 69.66 dbhp and 75.60 belt hp. The 820/830 had a 471.5 cu in two cylinder engine and a shipping weight of 8302 pounds.

Harold H