Killed my Starter?

[JDrew]

18" of snow last night and school was cancelled for today so off I went to get some good seat time pushing snow around. Lots of work for Elmer ("47 2N 6v) and after a couple of hours, he refused to start after I stalled out on too much snow. Cranked for a while and then let it sit for a few minutes, cranked, sit, crank, sit until I went back to the garage for a "full" battery and jumper cables. When I got back, no more crank. even tapping the jumpers on the starter motor post would give me no movement.

So, I think I burned out my starter. Can it be rebuilt or am I out $130?

Thanks,

J-

 

[Anonymous-0]

I would try again to use the starter post with the jumper cable. Make sure that the one cable is making good groud with the tractor frame.

Then if the starter turns, check to be sure that all connections are tight and clean. Battery to starter switch, then from the switch to the starter.

Usually the starter is pretty tough.

HTH John,PA

Also, sometimes the starter gear jumps up on the flywheel ring gear. Have to remove the starter and re-install. This will give the feeling of the starter failing.

 

[Kenster]

Would it be possible that you got some snow up on your front mount distributor which now has water in it? Which caused the initial stall?

 

[Paul in MN]

Sometimes the starter (when the battery is low) will engage the flywheel and stay locked in. Had this happen a week ago on a 8N I service.

See if you can turn the engine over by turning the fan blade, while pushing against the side of the fan belt to increase its tension. Sometimes this will free the starter drive. Tractor in Neutral! If the engine turns easily, you may be able to pull start the tractor, but if you hear a lot of noise from the starter motor, shut down immediately. When I say pull start, I mean only a short distance like maybe 20 feet. You probably need to dry out the front mount distributor...hair dryer.

If you have checked all battery cable connections to be bright and tight, and still nothing happens, then take the starter motor out and inspect the bendix and armature, maybe the armature shaft got bent.

You will get a much better starter by having a good elect shop rebuild/repair yours as compared to buying a new one. Trust me, the oriental starters are poor fitting and have, on average lasted 3 months when in daily usage. They have a 1 year warantee, but I have put a total of 5 in the same tractor in the last 1.5 years. They are the $130 variety.

Paul in MN

 

[souNdguy]

If you jump it to the starter with a 12v bat and don't get an arc.. then figure that the brushes may be stuck.

if the starter drive is hung int he ring gear.. it won't turn.. but will spark.

might have to pull the starter out foe a looksee.

( can always pull start the tractor too.. )

soundguy

 

[OneWelder]

Make sure starter has not lost ground to block
Sometimes a sharp crack with hammer will solve several different problems

 

[Ultradog MN]

That's my guess - snow/water under the coil.
Now he has two problems. No spark and a bad starter from grinding on it too long.

 

[JDrew]

When I jump from a 12V batter direct to starter post, I get a good arc when hitting it with the cables. I"m sure that the distro and electronics all got pretty wet (28" of snow in 24 hours!)so I"ll work on getting everything dried out too.

I"m hoping it"s "just stuck" and it"ll just take some wiggling.

Thanks!

J-