Kind of like an 8N

[Royse]

I have to start feeding that cat so it quits dragging stuff home!

About the size of an 8N, closer to a 2000 feature wise. ~32 HP
Live PTO, dual clutch, 6 forward, 2 reverse. Live hydraulics via
that same dual clutch, draft and position control with speed
control on the hydraulic reaction. Ground speed PTO too.
It does not have the optional power steering.

It is running in that picture, needs a little TLC, but runs great and
has excellent tires, even if they are a "bit" over sized. 16.9 x 24

 

[TheOldHokie]

(quoted from post at 17:28:54 09/16/17) I have to start feeding that cat so it quits dragging stuff home!

About the size of an 8N, closer to a 2000 feature wise. ~32 HP
Live PTO, dual clutch, 6 forward, 2 reverse. Live hydraulics via
that same dual clutch, draft and position control with speed
control on the hydraulic reaction. Ground speed PTO too.
It does not have the optional power steering.

It is running in that picture, needs a little TLC, but runs great and
has excellent tires, even if they are a "bit" over sized. 16.9 x 24

I've always had a fondness for that vintage of Massey. That 35 is way more tractor than an N. When my elderly neighbor reached the point he couldn't operate it anymore I tried to buy the Perkins diesel (w/PS) he had. He told me his son would shoot him if he sold it. So it sat there by the fence taunting me for 10 years or so. Tried again to buy it from the son after the elder died. Not a chance of that either.

TOH

 

[Royse]

That's a shame TOH, I hate to see them rot for no reason.
This one is gas and I believe it has had an engine swap because
the tractor is a 1959, silver belly, red tin. But the engine is painted
green, which, if original, would be an earlier engine. Still the correct Z134.
It still has the tag on the block, so I should be able to look it up.

When I was much younger, the neighbor had a Dodge Charger
convertible setting in the yard. '68 IIRC. It belonged to their
son who didn't make it home from Vietnam. They wouldn't sell it.

I tried several times. The top eventually rotted off, so the interior
was trash. The tires all flat and the rims rusting into the ground.

The last time I tried to buy it I asked him if he thought that's
how he thought his son would have liked to see it treated.
He, rightly, kicked me off his property. Was not my best move.
The car was scrapped when mom and dad passed.
It had less than 10,000 miles on it.

 

[Jim WI]

Local newspapers all carried a full page story with pictures a couple of years ago about a local father whose son died in Viet Nam. Just before leaving the son bought a nice red Corvette and asked his dad to care for it while he was gone. Dad (now 90-something) was still taking care of the car.

Darn allergies -- they just keep acting up.

 

[Tom Bowman]

Nice work, Royse.
Many years ago, my elderly neighbor had a gas Ferguson 35 Deluxe that I borrowed a few times. He was the original owner, and it was always kept inside.
When he died, his family offered it to me for $1,500. That was a heck of a price, but for me, at that time, it might as well have been a million bucks. (I told them I didn't have a place to keep it inside, which he would have wanted, so I didn't have to tell them I couldn't afford it.) I've always wished I could have figured out a way.
Now I've got a TO-20, which is a lot less tractor, that I've put a lot more than $1,500 in! Go figure.

 

[Royse]

I understand the allergies Jim. Nice to know it was/is cared for!
As the song says, it was once somebody's dream.

 

[Royse]

I know how that goes Tom. Day late and a dollar short.
This one will get the TLC it deserves, but I think I'll leave
the paint as is. At least until I can prove it is not original.
And just to rub it in, I didn't pay that much for it.

 

[TheOldHokie]

(quoted from post at 18:23:55 09/16/17) That's a shame TOH, I hate to see them rot for no reason.

Oh - it didn't rot. The house and land was sold as part of teh estate and the son took the 35 "home" with him. I imagine it is now reasonably well cared for and might even have a new coat of paint which it needed. I am not one who thinks a rusty "patina" over fading paint is a good thing ;-)

TOH

 

[Royse]

(quoted from post at 19:22:14 09/16/17)

(quoted from post at 18:23:55 09/16/17) That's a shame TOH, I hate to see them rot for no reason.

Oh - it didn't rot. The house and land was sold as part of teh estate and the son took the 35 "home" with him. I imagine it is now reasonably well cared for and might even have a new coat of paint which it needed. I am not one who thinks a rusty "patina" over fading paint is a good thing ;-)

TOH

Good paint protects from rusting, and I'm all for it!
On the flip side, they are only original once, so if I can preserve an
original I'll opt for that too. Just depends on the situation for me.

 

[TheOldHokie]

(quoted from post at 19:26:40 09/16/17)

(quoted from post at 19:22:14 09/16/17)

(quoted from post at 18:23:55 09/16/17) That's a shame TOH, I hate to see them rot for no reason.

Oh - it didn't rot. The house and land was sold as part of teh estate and the son took the 35 "home" with him. I imagine it is now reasonably well cared for and might even have a new coat of paint which it needed. I am not one who thinks a rusty "patina" over fading paint is a good thing ;-)

TOH

Good paint protects from rusting, and I'm all for it!
On the flip side, they are only original once, so if I can preserve an
original I'll opt for that too. Just depends on the situation for me.

My view is quite different - rusty metal was never original ;-)

TOH

 

[steve19438]

that round clutch pedal indicates a fairly early TO-35. could have easily been green and gray and painted massey color later on.

 

[Royse]

(quoted from post at 19:41:16 09/16/17)

(quoted from post at 19:26:40 09/16/17)

(quoted from post at 19:22:14 09/16/17)

(quoted from post at 18:23:55 09/16/17) That's a shame TOH, I hate to see them rot for no reason.

Oh - it didn't rot. The house and land was sold as part of teh estate and the son took the 35 "home" with him. I imagine it is now reasonably well cared for and might even have a new coat of paint which it needed. I am not one who thinks a rusty "patina" over fading paint is a good thing ;-)

TOH

Good paint protects from rusting, and I'm all for it!
On the flip side, they are only original once, so if I can preserve an
original I'll opt for that too. Just depends on the situation for me.

My view is quite different - rusty metal was never original ;-)

TOH

True, not rusty metal. I meant original paint. Even if faded. Like this guy "may" be.

 

[HCooke]

A 35 Deluxe is a much better tractor than an 8N. Never owned one but a friend has one and I have used it. I think it is more tractor than a
601 or an 801.

 

[Hobo,NC]

I fell off the wagon and brought a tractor last Sunday a International 464D. It went FAST the way I like it... I did not operate it much maybe 15 min and fell in love with the transmission... When I delivered it I ask the guy you have one more chance to get your money back before I unload it he declined... I should have took it to a auction and watched them fight over it, it had issues I could not sell it with out them being known... Ran like a new'N tho with about 70% tires...

One thang I have found out I starting to like a diesel this one had set for 2 years stuck a battery in it, it fired off and ready to work I could have fixed the issues I did not think I would come out any farther ahead so flipped it...

 

[Royse]

I'll have to get you a better picture Steve. The clutch pedal is not round.

 

[steve19438]

really? looks like it has a knob on the end of it ???

 

[Royse]

(quoted from post at 22:02:37 09/16/17) really? looks like it has a knob on the end of it ???

No sir, no knob on the end of it. Nearly flat, checkered pedal.
I'll try to get a picture of it tomorrow. Too dark out now.
Interestingly, the right brake pedal looks similar to the one I
thought was home/shop made on my TE20. Makes me wonder.

 

[Dean]

Nice model tractor, and with 14.9X24 flotation tires.

In the past, I've owned 2 different MF 35s, both with Perkins diesel engines. They would do nearly the same work as would an 860 and use much less fuel doing so.

Parts will be less readily available and more expensive than those for the ubiquitous 50s Fords but most are still available.

Biggest complaint that I had was the PS was time consuming and expensive to overhaul.

Dean

 

[ASEguy]

Nice looking tractor. The color looks great.

 

[Ultradog MN]

I spent much of one summer on one of
those. I think it was a 35 Deluxe. Gasser.
It had a rotovator on it and I tilled
between the rows on a large berry farm in
Oregon City, Or. Boooring!
But at 16 it was a decent paying job and I
didn't have to pick berries like the other
kids he hired or at least not as much.
When my wife and I were out that way this
summer we drove out there to see if the
farm was still there.
Nope! Residential developement as far as
the eye could see.

 

[Royse]

(quoted from post at 22:22:45 09/16/17)

(quoted from post at 22:02:37 09/16/17) really? looks like it has a knob on the end of it ???

No sir, no knob on the end of it. Nearly flat, checkered pedal.
I'll try to get a picture of it tomorrow. Too dark out now.
Interestingly, the right brake pedal looks similar to the one I
thought was home/shop made on my TE20. Makes me wonder.

Here it is Steve. When I took this picture I wondered if what you
were seeing was the end of the foot peg maybe. It has a knob.

 

[steve19438]

I stand corrected. not much wear on the pedal. two of my 35's (to's) have roundish clutch pedals with a knob on the end like the foot peg. not exactly sure when the flat pedal came along.

 

[Caryc]

(quoted from post at 15:23:55 09/16/17) That's a shame TOH, I hate to see them rot for no reason.
This one is gas and I believe it has had an engine swap because
the tractor is a 1959, silver belly, red tin. But the engine is painted
green, which, if original, would be an earlier engine. Still the correct Z134.
It still has the tag on the block, so I should be able to look it up.

When I was much younger, the neighbor had a Dodge Charger
convertible setting in the yard. '68 IIRC. It belonged to their
son who didn't make it home from Vietnam. They wouldn't sell it.

I tried several times. The top eventually rotted off, so the interior
was trash. The tires all flat and the rims rusting into the ground.

The last time I tried to buy it I asked him if he thought that's
how he thought his son would have liked to see it treated.
He, rightly, kicked me off his property. Was not my best move.
The car was scrapped when mom and dad passed.
It had less than 10,000 miles on it.

Royse,

Your Z134 should have an engine tag on it on the left side. If you can get the engine serial number off of it you can email it to this guy and he should be able to tell you the year the engine was made.

Gerard Moons
[email protected]

Here's what mine looks like. It was hard to read but I stuck a digital camera with macro lens back there and took a few pics at different angles until I got one that I could read the number.

 

[Clifford B.]

Nice score Royse..... 8)

 

[Royse]

Thanks Cary, yes my tag is still there and in good shape.

 

[L.Fure]

What did the early TO's share with the Fords, other than the hydraulic system?

 

[Royse]

(quoted from post at 18:10:45 09/17/17)
What did the early TO's share with the Fords, other than the hydraulic system?

Not much. Front rims, rear rims and rear wheel centers will
interchange but they are not the same. Ferguson rear rims
used a different style bolt to connect to the centers and the
centers were scalloped to facilitate adjustment instead of round
like they were on the earlier Fords. Up through the NAA.
Of course the 9N/2N centers are different then 8N/NAA and won't
swap with the later Fords, let alone a Ferguson. But the rims will.
I have not tried it, but I believe the fenders would swap.
Same story with 3pt lift arms and external linkage.

 

[Caryc]

(quoted from post at 14:28:54 09/16/17) I have to start feeding that cat so it quits dragging stuff home!

About the size of an 8N, closer to a 2000 feature wise. ~32 HP
Live PTO, dual clutch, 6 forward, 2 reverse. Live hydraulics via
that same dual clutch, [color=red:9ab941986b][b:9ab941986b]draft and position control with speed
control on the hydraulic reaction[/b:9ab941986b][/color:9ab941986b]. Ground speed PTO too.
It does not have the optional power steering.

It is running in that picture, needs a little TLC, but runs great and
has excellent tires, even if they are a "bit" over sized. 16.9 x 24

Does that "speed control" work when you are using the position control lever?

 

[Royse]

(quoted from post at 20:09:05 09/17/17)

(quoted from post at 14:28:54 09/16/17) I have to start feeding that cat so it quits dragging stuff home!

About the size of an 8N, closer to a 2000 feature wise. ~32 HP
Live PTO, dual clutch, 6 forward, 2 reverse. Live hydraulics via
that same dual clutch, [color=red:58f259f452][b:58f259f452]draft and position control with speed
control on the hydraulic reaction[/b:58f259f452][/color:58f259f452]. Ground speed PTO too.
It does not have the optional power steering.

It is running in that picture, needs a little TLC, but runs great and
has excellent tires, even if they are a "bit" over sized. 16.9 x 24

Does that "speed control" work when you are using the position control lever?

I don't know for sure Cary, as described it is to adjust draft reaction speed.
I haven't got to use the speed control yet to find out exactly how it works.

 

[Caryc]

(quoted from post at 17:11:43 09/17/17)

(quoted from post at 20:09:05 09/17/17)

(quoted from post at 14:28:54 09/16/17) I have to start feeding that cat so it quits dragging stuff home!

About the size of an 8N, closer to a 2000 feature wise. ~32 HP
Live PTO, dual clutch, 6 forward, 2 reverse. Live hydraulics via
that same dual clutch, [color=red:23e4a9fa5e][b:23e4a9fa5e]draft and position control with speed
control on the hydraulic reaction[/b:23e4a9fa5e][/color:23e4a9fa5e]. Ground speed PTO too.
It does not have the optional power steering.

It is running in that picture, needs a little TLC, but runs great and
has excellent tires, even if they are a "bit" over sized. 16.9 x 24

Does that "speed control" work when you are using the position control lever?

I don't know for sure Cary, as described it is to adjust draft reaction speed.
I haven't got to use the speed control yet to find out exactly how it works.

After re-reading the operators manual for my MF202 again, it seems to say it only works in draft mode with a ground engaging implement.