loader mounted plow-Part 2

[Don-Wi]

Here's a picture of our loader. It's a Massey 165, with a crankshaft driven pump that is plumbed up to use the rear end as the reservoir.

I'm thinking I'm gonna make up some cylinder stops once I figure out how long to make them, and then I'll be able to disconnect the hoses for the dump and then run lines for angle instead. I can't just connect to the bottom pins and run a chain to the loader frame, because, for whatever reason, the cylinders are on the bottom instead of on top like every other loader I've ever seen.

I've got a lead on a 7 1/2 ft. plow for around $200, and once I get it I'll make up a frame to mount it to the loader, and then hook it up and give 'er a test run. I need angle because I can't just push the snow to the side like most, I have to push it down the driveway and pile it up. No room on the sides to push it otherwise I would.

Need to be able to angle it so I can control how much goes out either side.

If I get bored, I could probably make up some mounts so it can go on the front of one of our other tractors too...

Donovan from Wisconsin

 

[Anonymous-0]

I was going to do the same thing last year but I had some people warn me that it could be a good way to twist the loader arms since they really aren't made to push an angled load. I've pushed pretty hard on the edge of our loader buckets clearing fence rows and the like so I don't think it would be a problem but a guy might want to take it easy until he's sure they will hold up. If I remember right you should be able to buy a manual splitter valve for less than a hundred bucks you could tie into your tilt cylinder lines for the third valve and then just run another set of hoses to the front with quick couplers.

 

[Anonymous-0]

Yes, making stops for angling is a good idea. Otherwise you could bend or blow out the cylinder. Most angle blades use 2 cylinders for angling them. I looked at some angle blades for bobcats a few years ago that used one cylinder but it had angle stops so it wasn't pulling on the cylinder or pushing on it. The other thing you could do is just use pins to angle it like on big tractor blades. A selector valve should be easy to plumb in to your bucket valve. They aren't too expensive. If you disconnect the bucket cylinders, they could creep. Sometimes you need to tilt the blade forward to get all the snow off of it when piling the snow. Does the blade your looking at have a spring trip? It could save a lot of potential damage. Being able to change the tilt of the blade down more makes it dig into packed snow better and tilting it back makes it not dig in as much. This is good on loose snow on a gravel driveway, so the gravel stays put. Dave

 

[NBAllen]

I realize its a fair amount more work, but have you considered a sub-frame that mounts to the tractor (separate from the loader arms) and just switching the hydraulic lines from one to the other?

A decent sub-frame would be much stronger than the loader arms and would allow more "push".

Of course the down-side is less piling height.

Just food-for-thought.

Nathaniel

 

[paul]

You _will_ have spring breakaway on the plow won't you? Those bottom mount hyd cylinders are a problem - they will bend like a pretzel if you hit a bump that doesn't give. Your plow _must_ be able to flip about fairly easily.

--->Paul

 

[Lodemia2]

Here is what you are trying to do. This is a Western 9" plow. My advantage is I have the standard skid steer type quick tach and all I have to do is drop my bucket and attach plow. I also have extra hyd on loader arm to run my angle cylinders. The cylinders on the plow are only one way, but I have them hooked to a two way valve. It will work. When you pressure one cylinder the oil from the other cylinder is reutrned to resevoir.

What you need is a Selector valve to switch from bucket cyl to angle cyl. I will try to post a link.

selector valve

 

[Don-Wi]

I won't be doing anything to the actual frame of the plow, so the original break away will still be intact. I plan to make it so that if ever so wanted, a guy would be able to hook it up to a truck once again. I've been thinking about the old bucket we have for that loader that's no longer very functionable for a bucket as it's pretty beat up, so I may take that one and modify it to work as the mount.

Still in the planning stages.

Donovan from Wisconsin

 

[Kelly C]

Here is one I put on my 706 last year. Havent used it yet. I have way to many snow removal tools around here.