looking for homelite help

[ericlb]

im looking for the mix ratio on a old homelite super xl chainsaw, as i remember, this was a pretty good saw years ago, and from time to time one showes up on here, but this one has sat in the shed for at least a decade[ probably longer] with a broken handel, as my 044 stihl was in a flood and i cant get it going yet, i fixed the homelite,and got it started on the stihl mix, but im sure this mix is wrong, and i dont want to run the homelite on it, as its really in pretty good shape over all, the numbers on it are U/T 10045c, serial is HK1211.343, any info is appreciated

 

[Mike (WA)]

This question has come up in the past, and the consensus is that its the oil, not the saw, that determines the mix. So the modern oil, which says to mix 40:1, will work in any saw. But the old ones, that call for 16:1, make me a little uneasy- so I usually split the difference.

And then there's the new Stihl weedeaters- they're 4 cycle, but still use gas-oil mix. No oil in crankcase, just the fuel mix. Sure start and run better than the old 2 cycle ones.

 

[JMOR]

Straight out of Homelite Owner's manual, dated 1989:

 

[guido]

Hello Mike(WA)
Good call on the mix. 32 to 1 or 4 ox. to the gallon Works good an many older applications.
Guido.

 

[guido]

Hello ericlb,
4 ounces (32/1) to a gallon will work just fine.
Guido.

 

[Oldmax]

I think they called for 16-1 but I ran one for 25 years on 32-1 and it is still running 5 years later. Had trouble with carb loading up on 16-1.

 

[JMOR]

(quoted from post at 20:41:27 11/02/11) I think they called for 16-1 but I ran one for 25 years on 32-1 and it is still running 5 years later. Had trouble with carb loading up on 16-1.

oes anyone read these things before they blurt out whatever??!! I posted the Homelite XL Manual !!! Clearly 32:1...........can anyone read? I would expect that if you can type you can read??? Damn! :evil:

 

[Earl Gray]

But!!! That manual is 22 years old, the oils have
improved since then. Lots of people run everything
50-1 regardless of age with no problems. I usually
put 3 oz per gal (43-1) as I have equipment of all
ages. AND, it keeps the mosquitoes away!

 

[ericlb]

thanks a lot guys, ive wrote it down for the future, the saw has a new 20 inch bar on it, any idea how big a bar the xl will run efectivly? this was my dads saw and really never did much besides a few limbs ect, it sure does run good though ive always run stihls, but i got to figure this o44 out, got compression and spark and fuel but intermitent running, it fires, then stops and wont do anything else, saw was under 2 feet of water during the flash flood last summer

 

[bill mart]

JMOR,for the record the majority was saying 32 to one.The arguement of new oils vs. old brings up a good point. Bill

 

[Kansas4010]

If I knew how to post pics of my dads old book for his XL it says 16-1. I even have some of the old bottles of oil left for mixing it. The older Homelites ran 16-1 then they changed to 32-1. I still use Dad's old blue XL once in awhile. They are good saws just remember they have no safety features.

 

[Anonymous-0]

You could go to Opti-2. One mix for all 2 cycle engines. I use it in my 20 year old Husky,12 year old Echo and in 3 4-5 year old Stihl chainsaws. I also use it in a Stihl 4-mix weedeater. I don't have to worry about somebody grabing the wrong gas can.

 

[JMOR]

(quoted from post at 07:16:09 11/03/11) If I knew how to post pics of my dads old book for his XL it says 16-1. I even have some of the old bottles of oil left for mixing it. The older Homelites ran 16-1 then they changed to 32-1. I still use Dad's old blue XL once in awhile. They are good saws just remember they have no safety features.

Go back far enough & Homelite used 10:1 (for the nit pickers, 10.666 : 1) or as marked on the gas cap 3/4 pint to each gallon of gas. I have one nearly like the pictured saw and I would never use 32, 40, or 50 :1 mix in it!

The lesser oil mix is NOT all in the "better oils".......engine design has changed fellows! Just one single area makes my point....Big rod end at crank in old saw engines was metal rubbing metal, pretty much like most tractor engines & cars & trucks (of course cars, trucks, tractors enjoy pressurizes oil systems). Modern saw engines have needle bearings at both rod ends.
Which do you suppose needs the greater lubrication? There are many other differences too, both in moving & non-moving parts making for better oil scavenging & distribution. My old saws get what the manufacturer recommended & my new saws get what the manufacturer recommends. That is me....you can rationalize/use whatever you want or just straight gas....at least for a few minutes.

 

[C W Hinton]

I use Sthil synthetic oil (50:1 mix) in all of my 2 cycle engines ever since its been available (over 10 years), no problems what so ever.

 

[JMOR]

(quoted from post at 17:35:18 11/04/11) I use Sthil synthetic oil (50:1 mix) in all of my 2 cycle engines ever since its been available (over 10 years), no problems what so ever.

ere any of your two cycle engines made in the 1950's? and really work them?

 

[TomR Ont]

C W Hinton,

Just last week I was at the Stihl dealer to get a chain and asked where the Sthil synthetic oil was, he told me it's not available, they stopped selling it because it separates in the tank.

Is it still available in the USA?

 

[LarryT]

TIME OUT!!!!! I have a super XL. On the tank it says 50:1 using quality two cycle oil. I calculate that to be 8 oz. to the gallon. I have had this saw since 1974 and it works as well today as the day I bought it. LarryT

 

[JMOR]

(quoted from post at 19:16:14 11/04/11) TIME OUT!!!!! I have a super XL. On the tank it says 50:1 using quality two cycle oil. I calculate that to be 8 oz. to the gallon. I have had this saw since 1974 and it works as well today as the day I bought it. LarryT

No wonder that it works good! You can thank your calculator/calculations for that, since at 8 oz, you have been running 16:1 all these years!!

 

[LarryT]

Well Don"t
I feel sheepish. But that"s cheep maintenance isnt it? And the thing makes power like you wouldnt believe. Started using regular bar oil at the beginning and have only changed the bar once. Now I have had it trued a couple of times but only replaced it once. Oil and grease are such cheep maintenance.

 

[JMOR]

(quoted from post at 12:24:21 11/05/11) Well Don"t
I feel sheepish. But that"s cheep maintenance isnt it? And the thing makes power like you wouldnt believe. Started using regular bar oil at the beginning and have only changed the bar once. Now I have had it trued a couple of times but only replaced it once. Oil and grease are such cheep maintenance.

"Oil and grease are such cheep maintenance." Much cheaper than hard metal engine parts........just keep on keeping on!

 

[C W Hinton]

To the best of my knowledge it is, at least my dealer (Pittsboro NC) stil has it. What do you mean "it seperates" ?