Mexican JD 730 D value?

[Anonymous-0]

What is a totally restored and rebuilt Mexican (1 in 513) John Deere 730 Diesel with pony worth?

 

[Anonymous-0]

It may be surprising, but its not worth what an american built one is, mexican tractors can be bought at much lower prices than their american sisters can. Take a Waterloo Built 630 All Fuel (listed restored on this site awhile back for $25,000) and a Mexican Built 630 All Fuel (listed on this site not running for $5500 with a 3pt)The american will sell for much more just because there are proven and documented production numbers. In some cases a mexican may be more rare, but its not as desirable in the collector market from what I have noticed on prices on them listed for sale on this site. Some will argue this and say they are worth more because they are more rare but selling prices to me are the final decision maker. Rarity doesnt always mean higher value, A Late Styled BW with 42" tires and all fuel engine is much more rare than a 330, but a Late BW All Fuel with 42" tires wont sell for over $20,000 either. Just my 2 cents, I could be wrong and If i am im sure ill hear about it

 

[Bob Harvey]

Just for information sake. Are you saying that JD built 730's in Mexico, and are somehow inferior or is it just the 'marketplace' and perceived value. Thanks.

 

[DeereValley]

I have never seen a 730 Mexican Diesel Pony. Most were electric start or allfuel. Does it have a Wide front or three point?

Many mexican JDs were scrapped out. They are rare, bottom line. I have not seen any restored 730s Mexicans sell, but if the restoration was done right (reground cam and lifters, and anything else done to that it needed), it will be a nice tractor regardless of were it was made.

Harlan has a 730 gas on ebay that he says is hard to find for sale ($7500 with the wrong Roll-a-Matic and no 3pt), but how often do you see Mexican built tractors for sale? (There is only one guy that list a couple of his mexican built tractors.) Numbers can be twisted in which ever way needed.

Some more food for thought, at the first Two-cylinder expos, G hi-crops sold for $2500 complete. Some people like to stay IN FRONT of the curve, while some like to follow other people's lead and criticize other people's accomplishments.

 

[Anonymous-0]

If you want to run down my tractor Ryan, why not bring up the "restored" 730 diesel you had on ebay, would you like me to list all of its faults, I can come up with a much longer list than you can for mine. At least my wiring is hooked up, more than you can say for yours. Funny how you are always the first one to throw names into the bunch, I was only replying to his question, sorry if you took offense to your taco john collection, even though I never mentioned you.

 

[Anonymous-0]

Ryan, also where are you coming up with your info? There are no production records based on electric or pony start models, Or do you base your info on what you have "seen" and just go off of that? The only info on mexican 30 series are the serial number ranges. You can not base what you have "seen" and call it hard production number facts. I have "seen" more 630 Hi Crops than I have 630 LP standards, does that mean there are less lP standards? I have seen more 730 Gas Hi Crops than I have 730 All Fuel Standards, does that mean there are more gas hi crops? I go by the books not what I think, not what I feel, not what ive seen. Try it sometime, you might learn something someday.

 

[DeereValley]

How did I run yours down??? I used it for a comparison of what you think is hard to find. If his tractor has a three point and/or widefront, it would be worth more.

You compared a RESTORED American built 630 AF to an UNRESTORED Mexican built 630 AF and from that concluded that Mexican built tractors are not worth as much. (This comes from what you have seen.) How can two tractors be compared when one is restored and one is not? Would you compare your 630 AF Standard the way it is now to the the way it was when you got it? What stereotypical or racist name do you call your South African tractor?

 

[DeereValley]

For everybody's information this, Harlan tired to sell some "gold" toys on ebay about a month ago. Guess what he does and did not have production numbers, But in the description, they were described as not many produced, MUST BE UNDER 10, therefore RARE. This guy twists everything around his way. I hope you all meet him at the expo this year, maybe now you can put a face with all of the lies before you buy or attempt to buy parts from him. For example when he sells fan shaft gears he does not have-- check the buyer/seller feedback.

 

[DeereValley]

Harlan will never post to this question so I will. Good question because you have him backed in the corner. Deere built 620, 720, 435, 630, 730, 830 in Mexico, but the only production numbers are the serial numbers that were sent down there. Not all of the serial numbers may have been used. They are identical models as US just with different serial numbers. He states that they are not worth as much, yet he only states that he has only seen ONE person on here have them. He can not tell me where there are any currently for sale, much less he can not tell me where he has seen a 620 Monterrey-- only 40 were built. This Harlan is quite interesting, seems he states his opinion but never backs them up with facts.

For comparison, I spent over four years looking for our Mexican 720 pony and Mexican 720 allfuel. In that time, I saw many US built ponys and allfuels for sale but did not and have not seen another 720 Mexican whether allfuel or pony for sale or sold since- and we bought ours over a year ago. If anybody has seen one sell, please post a link and prices.

 

[Anonymous-0]

Yes, Check the buyer/seller feedback, see that I gave him a full refund, also check my eBay feedback which is rated at 100%. Ryan, howcome you never mention to anyone the free set of factory flat b rear wheels with new tires on them you got from me? They arrived and you werent happy with them and got 100% refund through paypal, and still have the wheels that you wont return, I will be at expo, perhaps you can bring them there? If you were so unhappy with the wheels and the transaction why did you buy from me after you bought the wheels? were you going to whine to paypal to try to get some more free parts then not return them? Please let me know when I can have MY wheels that YOU got free returned. Or do you already have them restored and mounted on the 1 and only B john deere built in mexico that is probably the only one built since you have no way to prove otherwise like the rest of your mexican tractors (and just for the record I do know there werent any Bs built in mexico, it just wouldnt surprise me for you to claim there was and that you have the only one, and the only real proof you have is a taco johns wrapper in the toolbox, that proof stands as much as the rest of your numbers and figures you claim to have. Good Day

 

[Anonymous-0]

Harlan,
I have followed what you have written about deerevalley and you are wrong. I will not buy from you anymore. I remember the whole story about the wheels over a year ago. You were wrong when you sent broken wheels to them. You gave them a refund and then you never picked the wheels up apparently. If you wanted them, it was your responiblilty to get them. They have more than paid with them from your crap on here. NEVER AGAIN WILL I BUY FROM ------ ------.

DIDN'T YOU SAY YOU WERE NEVER GOING TO POST HERE AGAIN? AS DEEREVALLEY WOULD STATE, MORE LIES FROM ------ ------.

 

[RobMD]

I have a 520 all-fuel that was exported to mexico and a 530 that found its poor self sitting in Nogales.

I have not purchased a monterrey built tractor yet, but i'm too afraid to go into mexico now.

 

[Anonymous-0]

Think whatever you want, I was only replying to someones question, didnt know that was illegal, deerevalley was the one that said he would never comment on any more of my postings. Funny how I am the only one willing to post my name, everyone else here are sure big talkers when their name isnt out in the open arent they. Everyone know everything about everyone and how everyone else is wrong but dont have the guts to put their name behind their comments. "interesting" isnt it

 

[Jake Winn]

I have had several Ebay dealings with the Linds on ebay and they have been very pleasant to deal with. No problems ever. Good communication and quick to pay. I was interested in and all fuel 620 they had for sale. It was rough, but restorable. They were very clear on this, representing it well I thought.

As for Harlan, there was a post a while back on this message board about a styled B built in 1938. I had replied saying that my family has 60006, the first styled BN built. It shows a warehouse date of June 16th 1938 I believe it is. Within a day of posting this, I recieved an email from Harlan wanting to buy it to add to his collection to have a model of tractor being the first through 10th of production numbers. Right after this he starts selling the other tractors that he has in this group. Also a few years ago, a friend of mine bought an unstyled G with a wide front off of ebay. After the auction ended and he did not win, he called the seller offering more money, trying to buy it out from under my friend. I feel that he uses a big bankroll to throw his weight around, not caring about who he hurts in the process.

 

[Anonymous-0]

Jake, as far as your BN goes, what is wrong with emailing someone and asking if it is for sale or not? And as far as the unstyled g with a wide front, Yes, I did email the seller and told him that if the sale didnt go through I would be interested, I didnt offer more money, and the reason I ended up selling my low serial number tractors was to pay for the restoration bill from gary uken on my 630 standard. If asking if tractors are for sale, and if selling some of mine are a crime, im guilty and that makes me a bad person. I too was interested in the 620 all fuel linds had until I see who had it, I knew if i bought it my money would be gone and i wouldnt be getting a tractor back most likely. If they were so unhappy with the wheels they bought from me, why did they buy from me afterwards? no one can answer that question for me yet. Im so done with this site, you wont see my tractors advertised, I wont post on the boards, all i tried to do was tell the gentleman above my thoughts about his 720 mexican not bringing up any names or anything and I am the one bashed. And yet of all the people that have something to say, I do give you credit jake you at least put your name with your comments. The others are still not brave enough to. Whatever im done, I can certainly sense the jealousy and im done with this site. I can tell when im not welcome even though I did nothing wrong. BYE