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[prlwng]

Got a 2n that is kinda wornout. This fall after not using for several days would have to chock for a rev or 2 then it would run. Winter time now. Did that after pluged in for coiple hours and heads warm. Lots if trouble starting. Today pluged in coupke hours, no choke. Started right up.

Had read somewhere here they easy to flood. Musta been what was happening. Will know more Sunday when down to zero and fire it up to push 6 inches outa way.

Do have it in my shop.

 

[Ed S.]

My experience cranking my '50 8N in near-zero (F) temps was to use as little choke as possible. If you feel you've "flooded" it, stop, pull and clean the plugs, reinstall and try again with less choke (just bump it out quickly).

 

[Mad Farmer]

Heat the carb with a hair dryer.

 

[Kondoge]

heating the carb is probably what I shoulda done, but anyways if you feel you flooded it the manual states to release the choke put the throttle wide open (full throttle) and crank it to exhaust the surplus fuel. also is the hairdryer trick really safe, after all we are dealing with an extremely flammable substance here.

 

[Ed S.]

Heat the carb with a hair dryer.

Or a magnetic block heater. I kept one on the hydraulic sump on the 8N so I'd have faster response on the back blade when plowing snow. I think I put another one on the intake manifold a few times when I knew I'd be plowing in bitter cold.

 

[Ed S.]

heating the carb is probably what I shoulda done, but anyways if you feel you flooded it the manual states to release the choke put the throttle wide open (full throttle) and crank it to exhaust the surplus fuel. also is the hairdryer trick really safe, after all we are dealing with an extremely flammable substance here.

You have to clean the plugs because the raw gas leaves deposits on the electrodes that increase resistance (less "spark"). Dell (the forum 'sparkymeister' who passed some years ago) wrote about this a lot.

 

[Kondoge]

you should, I guess if it was hot then that would cause the plugs to have the fuel evaporate off the electrodes. The method to cleaning spark plugs is different for every person,my way of doing it is my favourite, stand out of range of anything flammable (preferably over some cement like a clean garage pad, have water on hand in case anything happens and hold the spark plug over a lit lighter, (keep your hands way at the other end of the plug with gloves on) all the fuel will either evaporate or burn off and if you want to you can remove the carbon/burn from the lighter after. silly yes, fun yes, does it work? also yes. Just don't be silly and burn the garage or field down. Though The more proper (and safer) way is waiting for them to dry or in some cases you can use compressed air or even a rag to remove the fuel from the plug. this is Incase somebody didn't know how to clean a spark plug that has flooded.

 

[Mad Farmer]

you should, I guess if it was hot then that would cause the plugs to have the fuel evaporate off the electrodes. The method to cleaning spark plugs is different for every person,my way of doing it is my favourite, stand out of range of anything flammable (preferably over some cement like a clean garage pad, have water on hand in case anything happens and hold the spark plug over a lit lighter, (keep your hands way at the other end of the plug with gloves on) all the fuel will either evaporate or burn off and if you want to you can remove the carbon/burn from the lighter after. silly yes, fun yes, does it work? also yes. Just don't be silly and burn the garage or field down. Though The more proper (and safer) way is waiting for them to dry or in some cases you can use compressed air or even a rag to remove the fuel from the plug. this is Incase somebody didn't know how to clean a spark plug that has flooded.

I use emory cloth to get the gunk off fouled plugs. Sometimes they are black with soot after fouling, and a bic lighter barely burns when it's real cold. The plug wrench and emory cloth live in the tool box with the rest of the tools handy to fix an N in the field.

My carb is not leaky and never had a problem with using the hair dryer. The tractor lives outside under a heavy military tarp. Here is a few years back at 5 oF.

 

[Kondoge]

Not a bic lighter I should've clarified a propane torch or barbecue lighter works a little better especially in the cold.

 

[Tall T]

I use emory cloth to get the gunk off fouled plugs. Sometimes they are black with soot after fouling, and a bic lighter barely burns when it's real cold. The plug wrench and emory cloth live in the tool box with the rest of the tools handy to fix an N in the field.

My carb is not leaky and never had a problem with using the hair dryer. The tractor lives outside under a heavy military tarp. Here is a few years back at 5 oF.

Nice photo!

Emery is my friend as well.
I put each plug in a vise, held by the hex part of course,
then I fold emery into a narrow strip until it is tight in the gap and drag it back and forth . . 400
600 to polish if need be.
A pitted surface creates more surface area making is more prone to contamination.

Fine steel wool on the plug wire end of plug and twist up some wool to fit inside the cable end and always twisting in the same direction. Ultra fine steel wool is no good for any of this and medium is too coarse.

Compressed air handy for all the above.

Any recommendations for tarps?
I'm fed up with these poly tarps lasting two years.

T
If you have a one side silver tarp, have the black side toward the sun and they last longer.

 

[Mad Farmer]

Any recommendations for tarps?
I'm fed up with these poly tarps lasting two years.

T
If you have a one side silver tarp, have the black side toward the sun and they last longer.

I bought military tarps years ago. Were pretty inexpensive then. Heavy vinyl coated fabric of some sort. 100% Water proof and heavy duty reinforced grommets. Heavy enough, unless heavy winds or a real storm they don't blow off. All are > 15yrs old and still no holes.

The one on my N is a tan USN/navy issue. I'll get a picture with my N under it.

I also have a whole bed cover for a deuce and a half. That covers a small tractor/car/pickup. 20 years old since I got it.

 

[Tall T]

I bought military tarps years ago. Were pretty inexpensive then. Heavy vinyl coated fabric of some sort. 100% Water proof and heavy duty reinforced grommets. Heavy enough, unless heavy winds or a real storm they don't blow off. All are > 15yrs old and still no holes.

The one on my N is a tan USN/navy issue. I'll get a picture with my N under it.

I also have a whole bed cover for a deuce and a half. That covers a small tractor/car/pickup. 20 years old since I got it.

Thanks,

What's a deuce and a half?

Now I know I'm getting old.
When I described how I clean plug contacts, that's a method I probably started with 50 years ago but now what I always do
is fold the narrow emery strip same as before so it is snug in the gap
but I don't put the plug itself in the vise.
I put one end of the emery in a vise, hold the free end tight with my other hand
then holding the whole plug, I slide the plug's gap down over the emery and then slide back and forth with the plug.
You get real nice application of emery pressure where you want it, pushing toward the ground strap or the electrode.
With this simple method you can even clean the ground strap curve all the way to where it is welded on.

 

[Powered By IH]

Deuce and a half, because it could carry two and a half tons.

(not my photo)

 

[Kondoge]

Deuce is 2 I know but where did the deuce term originate?

 

[ChrisFromCLE]

I use a spark plug sandblast cleaner. Absolutely the best tool I have bought. Saved me literally hundreds of dollars on new plugs and hundreds of hours chasing them down. I know I might sound like an internet schill but I really do like this tool.

Chris from CLE

PS. Like some others, I can’t seem to upload a photo right now…

 

[Mad Farmer]

Deuce is 2 I know but where did the deuce term originate?

Deuce = 2

Acey Deucey card game

2 = Dos (spanish), deux (french), due (italian), duo (latin)

 

[Mad Farmer]

Thanks,

What's a deuce and a half?

Now I know I'm getting old.
When I described how I clean plug contacts, that's a method I probably started with 50 years ago but now what I always do
is fold the narrow emery strip same as before so it is snug in the gap
but I don't put the plug itself in the vise.
I put one end of the emery in a vise, hold the free end tight with my other hand
then holding the whole plug, I slide the plug's gap down over the emery and then slide back and forth with the plug.
You get real nice application of emery pressure where you want it, pushing toward the ground strap or the electrode.
With this simple method you can even clean the ground strap curve all the way to where it is welded on.

I keep a 13/16 spark plug socket (the ones with 5/8 hex on top) with a roll of emery inside, for the Ns tool box. A 3/8 ratchet for #s 2-4, and a 5/8-11/16 open end to turn it on #1. #1 plug is a nnalert to get at, and the one that usually fouls first.

If you are in the field, just use the socket to hold the plug while you clean it.

 

[Tall T]

Deuce is 2 I know but where did the deuce term originate?

Probably because Deux in french is two.

 

[Kondoge]

fair enough

 

[Mad Farmer]

Any recommendations for tarps?
I'm fed up with these poly tarps lasting two years.

Site is working again to post pictures/attachments!!!

I promised some tarp pictures. I plowed yesterday and overnight we got a few inches, so warming up the carb with hair dryer (see yellow extension cord going under tarp) and going to scrap off the driveway again. It's 10 oF right now.

That is where my N lives 24/7, 365.

This is a USN issue and I've had it ~25-30 YEARS. Still totally weather proof. I can't find the same currently, was an Ebay purchase.