new ground plow vs bottom plow

[Donnie White]

I thinking of getting a new ground plow and I"m wondering if it was a better than a double bottom plow. I have Ferguson 30 and mostly sandy soil with heavy grass over most of it. Any other information on new ground plows would be helpful. Plus I like the way the new ground plow looks

 

[Aaron SEIA]

Welcome. Not real sure what you mean by new ground and double bottom? I assume by double bottom you mean a 2 bottom moldboard plow. The new ground one has me stumped. If you are referring to a new plow vs an old plow, then I'd probably say get the old one. They are built heavier. The only reason to get a new one would be that the share for a new one should be readily available. A lot of the old er shares are not being made any more and breaking one can mean a long search for a replacement.
AaronSEIA

 

[Donnie White]

I guess I should have said a 2 disc plow. I have heard them
called both names. They have two huge disc set at an angle
to cut thru the soil. I think the ferguson number is
something like AO 22 maybe. Thanks

 

[donjr]

An ordinary moldboard plow will work just as well as anything. I'd recommend finding one with the newer style shares, though. You won't find too many of the old chilled steel types anymore.

 

[Anonymous-0]

Unless you have small stumps, and tree roots to plow through, the regular bottom plow is your best bet. New land, or disc plows plow pretty rough, in sod. If you do find one, key to making adisc plow work, is having the tail coulter full diameter, not worn.

 

[usetob]

hold on tight when you go back over it, it's rough as the devil!

 

[Tx Jim]

Disk breaking plows are also better in rocky soil than moldboards. They will roll over/around obstructions.

Dave is correct about the rear coulter wheel on a 3pt disk plow. It guides the plow and keeps plow from pushing tractor sideways.

 

[Bret4207]

Other than the Monroe Tuffline disc plow I' don't know of any new disc plows being made and marketed in the US. I've contacted Monroe about their plow but they don't seem interested in answering emails. Sometimes you can find an old disc plow but if the discs themselves are worn you are outta luck. I have a 3 bottom disc plow that is supposed to have 28" discs on it. They are about 23" now and I can't get the discs low enough to cut.

Jut be careful is you buy old because sometimes old is junk.

 

[Ralph Bauer]

There was a company out of Matador, TX that used to manufacture reversable disc plows. Name won't come to me, but I have seen one in an auction at Montgomery Tractor in Seymour, TX late last year, brought "only" 1800,-, IIRC. I'll try to investigate. Seems like they are still used in NM, Arizona, etc...

 

[Ralph Bauer]

How about a athensplowcompany.com (Tenn.)
or
Reversible Disc Plow Works
Address: 2013 S K St
Phone number: 559 686-4800
Zip code: 93274 - 6845
City: Tulare, California (CA)
(no website)

Both are quite different in equip. but maybe something will work....

 

[Leroy]

If all you have is heavy grass just get a cat 1 2 bottom 14" plow as that is what that tractor was made for, some places they got by with a 3 bottom but 2 is way better. Out of the 8 in by imidiate area 5 used 2-14", 2 a 3-12" and one a 3-14" and this is when they were still fairly new. You only have 29 pto hp so a 2 bottom 16" would pull too hard to consider. Make sure you have good coulters and grass no problem. Now if it was brush mowed off then a disk tiller or a one way of 5 blades or less or a 5' offset disk but grass a moldboard will be just good. If you do have some spots with roots get a cheap made single shank subsoiler and go over that area multiple times with it to cut and pull the roots out and then moldboard.

 

[jackinok]

the proper terminoligy would probably a breaking plow,and a turning plow around here. A true sod breaking plow had a extra long moldboard on it that was twisted more to help lay over sod. Since that was normaly some really tough plowing the extra moldboard helped it turn over at low speeds. I doubt that you will find a true breaking plow built anymore new. The ,what we called turning plows, were simply moldboard plows with shorter moldboards built and designed to turn ground over at higher speeds. My guess is that would do what you need if its suited to your tractor size. You could at one time change moldboards to say a sod or stubble bottoms,but nearly all ive seen in that last 30 years have had general purpose bottoms on them.I havent seen a true breaking plow since i was a kid except in museums.If you buy a new plow you may check to see if they offer different style moldboards for it still. disc plows do sort of a different thing than a moldboard,i use one but i dont know how it would work in the really thick sod we used to breakout years ago.Ive never tried,but you could have penetration problems,i simply dont know.

 

[outdoors]

Good post. I have a large single furrow plough that my father always called a "breaking" plough. It is in great shape and I intend to put it to use this year to plough a small field (about 5 acres) that has some pretty well established alders in it. I will mow it clean first and the breaking plough is supposed to do better job of flipping the sod and getting through any roots with less clogging that a multiple furrow one. That's the story I was always told anyway. It will obviously be slow going but my old IH454 diesel should make easy work out of it. I can hardly wait!

 

[sixtyninegmc]

You still run into the occasional breaking plow up here in Alaska, I have heard them referred to as "prairie breakers" quite a bit. Still a fair bit of opening new ground up here, most use bog discs more than the breaking plows nowadays, but they are still around. A lot of guys pulled single bottoms breakers with JD450 or similar crawlers.

 

[usetob]

I think your talking about a pan plow

 

[Ralph Bauer]

I was thinking of the Lynch Manufacturing Co. out of Halfway, TX, west of PLainview, TX on Hwy 70. Durward Lynch was the owner (?-1994). Was also locally known for his "private zoo", which he kept near the plant.
There's the 5 bottom disk plow that was sold at auction now listed in TH....nice mark-up!.