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Christopher S.

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Our friend is in the market for a new one ton dooley pickup. His only stipulations are four wheel drive, automatic, and crew cab. He has no biases as far as brand so this leaves any of the big three available. Whats your opinion.
 

they all work. I currently have a F350. But if I were to buy today I would go GM.
It all boils down to personal preference and what style you want.
 
I am partial to Fords. Good thing too because I will not buy anything from a government owned auto company.
 
If brand doesn't matter, and he knows what features he wants, then go to the service department and ask for prices on the more expensive maintenance repairs he will encounter, for example, water pump replacement, brake job, exhaust system.
 
He needs to wait for a while.
All three are making improvements that should have been done a long time ago. But, as many a business views it, let the customer bear the brunt of the company's mistakes. (And they wonder why so many are going out of business?)
FORD has an in house diesel (first for the Power Stroke market) coming out in a few months. Allegedly (I say that because so many times they have assured us that the problems were finally solved with each "new engine" annoucement) this engine will be close to bullet proof. It has a block that is many times stronger than any cast. It is very innovative such as the intake and exhaust are backwards from conventional engines. The intake manifold is outside the heads and the exhaust is inside. This makes for a shorter diatance to the turbo.
Cummins is pretty solid but who wants to listen to a rough sounding and loud 6 cylinder diesel while driving?
Not sure if Government Motors truly has all the bugs out of the Disaster Max.
 
Your buddy should be looking at the 4500 series of trucks from the big three.
Same $$$ as a pickup with much heavier frames, suspensions,brakes, driveline and tires.
 
GM fixed the problems on the Duramax with the LLY version. LB7 was the first. I work in a Ford/Chevrolet dealership and once in a while we get a Duramax in for oil and filters, maybe a #2 injector connector. The Fords make me lots of money. Head gaskets, injectors, EGR coolers, turbos, FICM's, fuel pumps. The 6.4 powerstroke is better, but it's still no Duramax.
 
Has anyone noticed a 07-up Cummins go by? Probably not. They are using piezo injectors that fire up to five times per compression stroke. They shoot a little fuel in early in compression, and the fire from having it in there really quiets things when the main fuel hits. I can't believe how quiet they are.

The Cummins, being an inline 6, makes it's power at a lower RPM than the powerstroke and duramax v-8's.

I wish they would put the Cummins in a Ford. Get all three divisions of Gubmint Motors out of the equation. Those would be Chrysler, Chevy, and GMC.

One of the guys at work just bought new GMC, and says he will never own another Chevy because it rides so much better, but it is only a half-ton.

Cummins has a v6 and v8, and Ford has a v6 diesel ready for half-tons, but Ford, for some reason, doesn't want to be first to market with it. I think they are missing a BIG sales opportunity.

The 4.5L Duramax also has the exhaust in the valley like the upcoming powerstroke, and the intake manifolds are cast into the valve covers. But it is dead for now.
 
My ideal truck would have a Cummins turning an Allison all mounted in a Ford chassis. There's a custom outfit that will deliver such a truck, but for a price.
 
ford cummins .com. They also sell the kit to do it yourself. And they have a way to wire it so the stock Ford transmission controller will work with the stock Cummins engine controller.
 
That is a great point.
I called FORD for a filler neck hose. The parts guy says, "yea, we got them in stock, come on by." I almost hung up but then asked the price. He said, "$184.00 plus tax." I laughed and told him he had a good sense of humor. However, he was not joking.
What FORD does is force you to buy the "assembly", which is the rubber filler neck hose along with the metal pipe that goes to the outside filler hole.
I don't need the metal pipe and no one else does unless they have had a wreck and destroyed this part.
This is the kind of nonsense that we as consumers should find a way to stop.
I found the filler neck hose at a parts store for $15.00 including tax.
I am sure this is far from the only absurd case of raping and pilaging the very consumers that keep them in jobs and in business.
 
He picked up some product literature at the dealer yesterday and saw that the GMC 3500 only had a GCWR of 23500 lbs. Like BuickandDeere said the Dodge 4500 has a GCWR of 26000lbs. and the Ford F-350 has a GCWR of 26000lbs.

F-350 has the 5spd automatic

Dodge 4500 has 6spd automatic and exhaust brake.

He has a lot to ponder over.
 
If you can wait a while for Ford parts, try one of the online dealers. I got the OEM 7 plug trailer plug for about $75 or $80, my local dealer was about $125.00. The one I buy from is tituswillfordparts.com, but there are others, too. They all use the same parts lookup online, but if you can't find what you want you can email them. If you want OEM Ford parts that are no longer available try greensalescompany.com they are buying up new old stock all the time and I was able to get two special cup holder screws for a 1997 F350.
 
Dennis,

Many thanks for all of that information.
Is there an online FORD part number search? I need a few things but not know the part numbers.
 
If you email the parts department and ask for the part number and price they will tell you. For some reason they won't put the parts lookup that's on their computer onto the internet. I emailed the dealer out in Washington for all the part numbers in the OEM fog light kit for my 1997, and they told me all the part numbers so that I can round up all the wires, switch, selenoid, and brackets because the kit is no longer available. If you give them your VIN number they can be sure of getting the right parts.
 
As for having a Cummins in a Ford= As long as Chrysler/Dodge Is Using there Motor in There Product ,do to the Fact they Envested around 25% in the developement and building these motors,to bad for baby Ford,Had several, Got a Dodge And Will Never Buy another Ford Again.
 
Like this one. This is a local guy that has alot of money invested. OUtpulls about everyone though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oue-HE-ZgVw

This truck is beautiful.
 
Perfect combo! Ford had the oppertunity to have the Allison in their Superduties, but declined stating that the Ford automatic was just as good. Hmmmmmm!
 
I was in the same position untill I priced them out.
Was looking at a '10 Ford F-350 4X4 Crew Cab Diesel 6-speed manual XLT trim. Only options were front Captians chairs, rear window defog, and step bars. sticker was almost $50,000. GM and Dodge were about the same price, and no manual trans in the GM.
These automakers are nuts, just the diesel engine was almost an $8000 option. thanks EPA.
 
Too bad the Sterling Bullet is either out of production now or soon will be. But you may as well buy the Dodge, they're the same truck and they are both owned by Daimler, along with Freightliner, Western Star, and Thomas Built busses.
 
I'm partial to the Cummins. I have a '96 Dodge 3500 4x4, dually, ext cab, flatbed, with a 5 speed. I've done some minor performance mods to it, and the thing will tow a battleship. I couldn't be happier with the drivetrain, but I hate the rest of it. Dodge really cheaped out on just about everything and the fit and finish is terrible. I bought the Cummins, it just happened to be in a Dodge. Prior to the Dodge I had 2 old Fords, a '70 F-350 dually stakebed, and an '87 F-250. They were both GREAT trucks. I hated to see them go, but they didn't fit my needs anymore. They're both still on the road to my knowledge. A Cummins in a mid 90's Ford would be kicka** in my opinion. But realistically, I think all of the modern trucks are fairly equal. The only difference is that the Cummins is a medium-heavy duty engine and the Duramax and Powerstroke are medium-light duty engines. You might get 100,000 more miles out of the Cummins, but with proper care, any of them will last a looong time. My truck has 210,000 miles on it and I still work the hell out of all the time.
 
If he has the money this would be the truck.
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Nothing beats an old 12v cummins for simplicity and reliablitly, to get mroe power out of them all you have to do is either turn the power screw or the smoke screw on the injector pump


go to cumminsforum dot com
or powerstroke dot org and read what problems people are having
 
Do you know the difference between a company vehicle and a 4x4? You will take a company vehicle places you'd NEVER take a 4x4...

CT
 
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