new sleeves

[8n1951]

any ideas on how to install new sleeves in my 51?

 

[Ultradog MN]

We're curious.
When was it that you decided that it needed new sleeves.
Thanks

 

[R Geiger]

(quoted from post at 12:02:38 02/13/12) any ideas on how to install new sleeves in my 51?

They drive in pretty easy with the sleeve installing tools

 

[Charner]

Put the sleeves in the freezer for about an hour. They should go in with a little pressure with a wooden block. Dry ice is even better.

 

[Ken(Ark)]

(quoted from post at 00:13:33 02/13/12) Put the sleeves in the freezer for about an hour. They should go in with a little pressure with a wooden block. Dry ice is even better.

WARNING : I HAVE NO PERSONAL KNOWLDGE OF WHAT I AM ABOUT TO SAY , he he .

I have heard that wood may curl the lip of a steel sleeve where a steel plate will not .

I believe it was Mr. Zane that used an axle that was cut short , was that at a dealership maybe ?

Best bet would be to purchase a tool made just for that purpose if you could . but economics will dictate that .

http://mysite.verizon.net/oldhokie/windyridge/id3.html

 

[Bruce (VA)]

I've seen sleeves installed using dry ice. If you have excellent mechanical skills & a bit of luck, go for it. If not, you best buy the correct tool.
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[Ken(Ark)]

(quoted from post at 10:57:28 02/13/12) I've seen sleeves installed using dry ice. If you have excellent mechanical skills & a bit of luck, go for it. If not, you best buy the correct tool.
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Bruce , do you remember the thread on this at the other board a couple years ago ?


Mixing dry ice and acetone in a bucket then dip the sleeve in the solution .

Had to be careful when the sleeve expanded or "popped" because it can spray a mist of cold stuff that could get in your eyes .

The dry ice turns to gas and leaves just acetone in the bucket which can be reused .

Neat deal but I think I would rather have a specialty driver .

 

[Bruce (VA)]

" Neat deal but I think I would rather have a specialty driver"

Me too! I don't have the skill level to try some of the stuff that some people around here do......simply because they've done it 200 times over 40 years!

 

[Anonymous-0]

i put my sleeves in a cooler packed with ice all day while i was at work. i put the cooler next to the tractor and took the sleeves out one at a time. dropped them in and tapped on a wood block to seat them. seemed to work well for me.

 

[Eriklane]

There are tools out there, Hokie can offer you one, make darn sure that it completely covers the sleeve top if you do use one. I had a bad problem when I cracked my block because the tool appeared right but wasn't wide enough and it caused the sleeve to expand and thus, damage the block. Hard lesson to learn for a 'simple' sleeve removal job.

Most machine shops can do this for you properly, and I'd think, not too expensively.

 

[navyeoseabee]

i took my 9n engine to north county equipment in san marcos, Cali that had the correct tool from ford back in the day, it was a machined spacer to hug the liner and had a lip that caught the top of the sleeve...and the 20 ton press made no sweat on the guys forehead as i watched.

to the user that asked what made you think you need new sleeves...

my answer is:

is why would i take apart my engine all the way to the block an not change the sleeves? if i am spending $1,000 in a redo and the cheapest way a overhaul is done is by the kit then why not put in the new sleeves?


i would not try to put in the sleeves without the tool, and a press.... sorry it looked too easy when the guy charged me $8.00 a sleeve .

 

[Lumpy]

 

[TheOldHokie]

(quoted from post at 22:57:52 02/13/12) There are tools out there, Hokie can offer you one, make darn sure that it completely covers the sleeve top if you do use one. I had a bad problem when I cracked my block because the tool appeared right but wasn't wide enough and it caused the sleeve to expand and thus, damage the block. Hard lesson to learn for a 'simple' sleeve removal job.

Most machine shops can do this for you properly, and I'd think, not too expensively.

There was nothing wrong with your tool Erik. They are made .002 smaller than the OD of a .040 wall sleeve and I check them against an old block before they ship. But they can still wedge inside the bottom of an old sleeve if it is badly worn or cracked. You have to keep liftng and rotating the tool slightly as you drive the sleeve down to make sure that doesn't happen as shown in the video. If it does start to wedge [color=red:7761516445][u:7761516445][b:7761516445]stop immediately[/b:7761516445][/u:7761516445][/color:7761516445] and knock it out backwards. The sleeve will have to be removed by other means. If you keep on hitting it you will damage the water jacket. If you have any doubts about your abilty to do the job yourself take it to a professional.

TOH