no fluid in tires

[Anonymous-0]

bought IH 856 at a sale, rear tires Radial, no fluid ,are you not suppose to put fluid in radials or yes can can.

 

[RAB]

Air is a fluid. Usually require a fluid of some kind if it is on pneumatics.
You can put liquid in them if you need more ballast. Type would depend on freeze protection and amount of ballast required plus taking into account the risk of leakage rotting the rims away. Your choice.

 

[Anonymous-0]

Wow, That sure cleared that up!

 

[buickanddeere]

Depends on the application. Depends on who you ask as well.
If power can be put to the ground without excess slippage without extra ballast. You will be gaining crop yields, saving fuel, reducing drive train wear and reducing soil compaction.
Cast weights are preferred if extra ballast is required.
If something should ever go wrong. There are fewer items to cause failure with dry tires. Dry tires are easier to repair punctures.
The advantages & disadvantages of bias, radial, cast ballast, salt water ballast & non corrosive ballast. Ride comfort, tire life, traction, center of gravity also get tossed around.
The topic will debated until there are no more tractors. Tire companies have spent 10"s of millions of dollars testing tires in the laboratory.
However Bubba at the diner with his seat of the paints dyno & dash fuel gauge. Usually out weighs the facts found by the engineers lab instruments

 

[Anonymous-0]

Thanks for the input guys i will go for wheel wieghts, because im putting a loader on the 856, not goin to work in field just carry bales etc :~)

 

[Allan in NE]

That's a fairly heavy tractor. Shouldn't need much.

Allan

 

[Don-Wi]

As long as there's a tube in there, no problems unless the tubes leak. If the valve stems spring a leak, fix (replace) them as soon as you notice it.

Some people even say just keep it above the top of the rim because as long as oxygen doesn't hit the metal inside, there won't be any problems. We've never been brave enough to try it that way.

Donovan from Wisconsin

 

[Bill(Wis)]

A good place to start is at your John Deere dealer. Get the JD pamphlet entitled "Optimizing Tractor Performance". Basically they start by recommending somewhere around 120 pounds of tractor weight per horsepower but that figure might be quite different for your intended use. Get the numbers you need off the Nebraska Test for that model tractor. They should have the ballasted numbers as well as unballasted and will tell you just how the tractor was ballasted. Bear in mind that the tractor was set up by the factory engineers to "look good" in the test. That means they might have put on way more weight than you ever would. Also keep in mind that the pulling tests were done on an asphalt track. Probably not the same consistency as your fields. I like to get the tractor's CG, both horizontal and vertical, if available. If not, you can do the horizontal yourself but you'll need a scale. Probably a good idea to weigh it in an unballasted "field ready" stance anyway.

 

[Anonymous-0]

RIVIR Yes you can put fluid in you'r radial tires, however a little more information is needed. Are they 18.4Rx38's. What brand of tires are they? Are they 1 star or 2 star rated, or they the newer metric rated tires? There are many brands of radial tires and they are not the same when it comes to installing fluid in them. The old rule of thumb for a radial tire was to fill it to the axle level only, anything more than that would negate the radial tire properties. That has all changed with the newer tires. If you do decide to install it, talk to a local reputable tire supplier, preferably one who sells that brand. If they know their business they will not waste you'r money. A lot of the newer radials will not benefit from the use of fluid. They will be able to advise you. ONLY use a HEAVY DUTY radial tube in a radial tire with fluid, not a regular radial tube, the extra cost is more than worth it.

 

[Anonymous-0]

IHC 856 has 20.8X38 Radials

 

[John A.]

RIVIR, My 2cents here!!!! I have a 966 w/ a 2350 IH loader, No fluid in tires, but have 750+ lbs of cast wt on each rear corner. Also here on the ranch we have a JD 4230 with a Koyker 565 loader it has 780 lbs of cast on each rear corner.
These 2 tractors are basiclly the same hp tractor, and both are open station too, but the balance of each is totally different.
The 966 is solid and steady with a full bucket of wet road base. The 4230 is squirrely with a full bucket of wet road base. The JD needs another 150 lbs, at least on each rear corner.
My point to you is this, DO Not skimp on the amount of rear wt for your tractor. In loader applications you can get in a storm real quick if your tractor isn't properly weighted and then some. Hope this helps.
Later,
John A.

 

[buickanddeere]

I said tire engineers, not tractor engineers. Tractor reps are looking for every last lb of drawbar pull at the expense of everything else.

 

[Anonymous-0]

THANKS John A, thats was a good 2cents worth.

 

[Leland]

Tires last a lot longer without fluid , by using weights they can be easily removed when not needed and you also won't wear the bars off as fast if you road the tractor a lot .