OT ... Dec 7th 1941

35thLE

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Can't believe I haven't seen anything on the news or news boards. Google didn't do anything with their logo (sent them an email) they do stuff for Stupid days. What is this country coming to? We have a bunch of bleeding heart (media) liberals who have no idea or care of the sacrifices given for their freedom.....their more busy giving our freedom away earned by someone else. I guess it's not a day that will live in infamy... "Those who fail to remember the past are doomed to repeat it."

Sorry, off my soap box now....
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just sayin...
 
NOT ONE WORD!!! 21 years in submarines and I am offended that it was so forgotten! I even served on a sub that made WW11 war patrols...what a hallowed boat.

Wonder if 9/11 will be forgotten in 2070?
 
Jim - we were in Kings Bay with my Dad a couple weeks back at the Navy Submarine Veterans Memorial Service - Dad was on the Congor and Burrfish (both Fleet-type boats) during Korea.

Thanks for your service!

es
 
I worked on a few WW2 diesel boats - till they sold them to Argentina.
Ever tie up to the Howard W. Gilmore (AS 16)?
I spent 2 1/2 years on it serving you "bubbleheads" (wink)
 
It has been on the news out of Indianapolis today and last night. My dad was in the Navy during WWII on the Conner during the shelling of Okinawa. To many of you men and woman are going away fast. Dad died two years ago. Thanks to you all that made it and the ones who didn"t.
 
it is truly amazing how the modern media has totally messed up our heritage and our history.
Contact all your local media and tell them your thoughts. Semper Fi
 
its a shame what the modern media thinks is important we're loosing about 10 % of our wwll vets each day and there arnt too many left to begine with compared to when they served wwll changed the world forever and its a key turning point in history, yet schools hardly even touch on it these days , its a bigger shame that we have diaper heads claiming the holocoust didnt happen, i guess they dont know a old frind of mine who was there, still has the number on his arm
 
Yes, 35, well said. Those guys who fought in WW II were put in a situation where they went over into the chit for the duration! Those of us in Viet Nam and skirmishes since then had a primary objective of just surviving, the WW II guys needed to finish the job before they could come home to resume their lives. A far different perspective.
 
I am a Gulf War Vet myself. I can't amagine the carnage survived by the WWII hero's. My heart and hat are off to them and they all remain to be in my sole forever. I buried my dad 2 weeks ago in the Cemetary of the Alehganies. South of Pittsburg. He was a Vietnam veteran and a decorated soldier. I didn't have to bury him there but he deserved the honors and recongnition as all of the veterans do. God bless America and all its hero's that protect her boundries!
 
Dunnno.......the local fish wrapper had 2-photo storys of 2-local Navy sailors that survived Pearl Harbor. One had his boat bottom hulled and sank next to and protecting a HOSPITAL ship. The other was handed a rifle and NO ammo and told to climb a water tower to be sniper. Tower was actually fulla gasoline. Arizona paid a 4th July curtisy visit with sailors all out dancing in their "whites" ......Dell, USAF missile blower-upper (1960-64)
 
I well remember Dec 7, 1941. I was in the first grade at Talladega's Graham School when the Asians bombed Pearl Harbor. Almost at once the whole nation tooled up for war. I think that Roosevelt knew it was coming because he had been training men and boys for years and many defence plants were already ready for production. Two of them around Talladega. I grew up on the war and remember the sacrifices that lots of people made. After the war started we moved into a defence community because my WW1 widowed mother got a job in the local powder packing plant. She was a seamstress and there was a big demand for women who could operate a sewing machine. The cotton bags were packed with gun powder and the women at the plant sewed the covers on the charges. All the buildings were explosion proof. Mother worked in s small cubicle with two foot thick walls on three sides and a window facing her sewing machine so it a bag of powder exploded the force would go out the window and not kill women working in the ajoining cubicles. They never had an explosion. All the tools that were used in the powder plant were made of bronze because they would not cause a spark if struck on dirt etc like steel could. We kids in the grammar school collected tin cans that were opened at both ends and flattened and piled them around the bottom of the flag pole in the school yard. By the summer vacation of 42 only the ball on the top of the pole was still visible. The rest of the pole was surrounded by a mound of tin cans mostly. Everything was rationed. No sugar for our cereal. No gas for the cars unless it was defence connected. Yes I remember it well and don't understand how the people of the USA can forget so soon. Lots of blood shed for our freedom by a lot of boys from our little town and tens of thousands from the whole country. How could we have forgotten so soon?

Zane
 
Served on the Chivo (SS 341) and the Harder (SS 568) and we were tied up to the Gilmore many times. We always joked that the Gilmore couldn't get underway because it was grounded on a mountain of coffee grounds. Many happy memories of Subron 1 and Charleston.
 
You and I are about the same age. I was also in the first grade in a one room country school. The first thing I heard my dad say was: "Toys will be hard to get." He was right. Maybe that's why I'm still buying toys. You're right about Roosevelt. He wanted to get us into the war. My uncle was a mostly unemployed carpenter until 1939-40 and then he worked full time with lots of extra time building barracks at Camp McCoy, WI. That was at least a year and a half before Pearl Harbor. A funny thing happened about 32 years later. I was visiting a tank gunnery range and a fellow major who was running the range introduced himself. Major John Hoffman. We were the same age and it turned out that he was a little boy growing up in Germany at the same time I was growing up in the US. The town he lived in was the site of a big railyard which was routinely bombed by US bombers once a month. He said: "We could set our clocks by it." They new the drill. Scamper out of school, climb the hill overlooking the town, watch the spectacular explosions, then report to the railyard where they were put to work relaying the tracks. Within 24 hours trains were rolling again and within one week the railyard was completely rebuilt. Only to be blown up again the following month. He loved it because it gave them a week off from school and they got to work for old men and learned a lot of things they never would have learned in school.
 
I heard a quite a bit of Pearl Harbor history on the radio. One interview with one of the Women's Air Service Pilots (WASP) told how she was a flight instructor out with a student at 0630, 7 Dec, 1941 and was almost hit head on by a military plane. She turned around and then saw the silver bombs dropping on the fleet. Her first act after landing was to volunteer for the WASPS and she later flew hundreds of missions delivering airplanes all over the world. Another account was Roosevelt's stirring speech to congress asking for a declaration of war. Great history. I listened and watched all of it and knew many who left and never came back.
 
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