Paint Cockshutt 1900

[x5farmer]

Getting the 1900 ready to paint --- on an early 1900 A (serial # 121029 -986) are the rear wheels painted cream or red -- have seen both
on web sites -- is the grill clover white or cream-- hope U guys don"t mind some of these questions again but noone seems to know -- there is a picture from Ireland with cream wheels!!!!

 

[gordey]

Are you sure thats the correct serial number? according to the hpoca mag they didn't make an A cockshutt, anyways the grill and all rims should be the same yellow cream color as the hood and side panels. I was gonna buy a nice original yellow 1900 the other day, I could email you a picture if you want.

 

[Anonymous-0]

Gordy it may be the same tractor but I was asked about this several years ago. I also have an Oliver publication that has a 1900 A series with front wheel assist. That was not on that list either.

 

[x5farmer]

Jay and Gordy --- back on 2/15/11 I posted some questions and U both responded --- I am pretty sure that the serial # is correct -- it is at the paint shop now -- Gordy, I would appreciate a picture and do U have the serial # of that tractor -- Floyd Country only had a picture of an all red 1900 --- there is a 1900 for sale in the photo ads now but I don't think that is correct!!!!!

email is: [email protected]

 

[John Harmon]

Heres the picture I think you have referenced in Ireland,this is clearly a Model 1900 Cockshutt..

 

[550Doug]

Here's a 1900 running a sawmill:

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[gordey]

i emailed you a picture of two with the correct scheme, there not like the 1950 there all painted the same olor as far as know.

 

[x5farmer]

Gordey -- got the pictures -- helps a lot -- air intakes on the Canadian one appears to be cream and the one U sent appear to be red -- just got back from the paint shop and mine are green!!!!! Sandblaster thinks this tractor was all green at one time with lots of red primer --- serial # is correct --- so if the serial # is goofy maybe this was taken off the line and repainted --- Jay do U have any more comments!!!!!

 

[ollie gm]

Both the photos on this post have the colors correct. I have an unusually straight farm fresh Cockshutt 1900 and the colors match. Note the red centers on the front wheels, the creme rear wheel centers and the silver precleaner tops. The air cleaner stacks are red as well as the screens. The inside of the rear wheel weights are red. The hydraulics are creme as well as the steering pedestal.
My engine and 2 speed were initially green which is hard to figure out. Oliver didn't even bother to wipe the finger prints off these parts when they did the repaint as this is where the red paint flaked off after several years.
I really have a problem with your tractor being an 1900A as most A series Olivers were checkerboards. Maybe there was a cross over in production where there were some A series produced with the tapered raised side emblems?
I have a original color sales flyer I could scan if you're interested.

 

[x5farmer]

Ollie--It would be great to an original flyer -- that is what I have been looking for for a long time!!!!

Jay last winter suggested that it is a series A --- I am not very familiar with the ABC issue of Olivers and did it carry over to Cockshutts????

Can U add any thing to the serial # debate????

MY email is: [email protected]

Does anyone know where I can get a seat frame -- the top part with 4 holes that attach to the bottom with the rubber cushions!!!!

 

[Anonymous-0]

I would like a copy of that as well. Now they also made some A series 1800 Cockshutt tractors late in the production of the A series. See how they were painted. A friend of mine had a junk yard and had a very very early 1600 Cockshutt that came from southern Ontario. That tractor was painred like the early 500 series Cockshutts, all cream.

 

[ollie gm]

Been gone for the weekend. I will scan the flyer tonight and get it off to you. JS didn't have an open email so I will check the HPOCA for his address.

Anxious to see a photo of your finished 1900. Did you leave the original generator on it? A lot of guys move away from the 18" rubber on the front. I personally like to see these rigs as original as possible.

I have looked at several Cockshutt 1900's and found them all to be either B or C series. Some of the late B series and all of the C series I have seen have the 4-53N 4V engines.

My experience and research on these tractors tells me that the Cockshutt's were assembled by removing the Oliver sheet metal, repainting the tractor and then installing Cockshutt tin. The Cockshutt tin was never repainted Oliver originals. Some Cockshutts may have been assembled as an original creme and red tractor for export.

Your tractor may be an original A series (Oliver checkerboard) that was grabbed from NOS and converted to a Cockshutt. If your 2 speed has an early s/n that fell in the checkerboard range, I would say it's an A version. I have seen front grilles drilled for both the wide checkerboard emblem and the narrow Cockshutt/Oliver emblem.

Seat parts for the 4 digits shouldn't be hard to find in large salvage yards. Agpartsfirst can get the new stuff.

 

[x5farmer]

Thanks Ollie -- A new question -- my air cleaners and stacks were painted green as well as the fuel tank and other frame metal around the battery -- I am inclined to paint this green again or are the ones U know about painted red -- the more I dig into this the more complex it gets!!!!!!

I called Floyd County and they said they don't have build cards for anything older Super series Olivers!!!!!!

Do U guys use Utherene or "base coat - clear coat" paint with acid etching primer or a different approach --- cost is no object!!!!!

 

[x5farmer]

Just talked to Mary Ann at the Museum -- she said build card IS available!!!!!!!!!!! Tractor does not have two speed!!!!!! Tin around fan is also green!!!!!!

 

[ollie gm]

Good news about the built card!

Very interesting, if your 1900 doesn't have a 2 speed I am inclined to beleive you actually have a very early A series and your s/n is correct. I have never seen a checkerboard with a 2 speed. Several guys have installed them later.

My fuel tank is green under the red paint as well as the air cleaners and the all the blower intake parts. I will look at the fan shroud tomorrow.

I am an Dupont Centari person only because of a lot of experience with it. They have a great meadow green for my Olivers. But Dupont doesn't really cross over the Cockshutt colors so for my 1900 I am using a PPG acrylic urethane. Actually I also am in the process of painting my rig right now. To answer your question, YES use an etching primer on your bare metal and kill any rust with Ospho. Remember blasting just removes the rust it doesn't kill it.

I should get the scan out tonight and see if I have some up close photos of my 1900 to add.