paint undercoat

[Anonymous-0]

do you have to get all the red paint off engine, trans, rearend to give under coat before painting red again.???

 

[El Toro]

Your paint job would look better if you would remove all the old paint and then apply a good primer. Whichever paint you're going to use I would use their primer and surfacer. Hal

 

[Steven f/AZ]

If the original paint is still holding on really well, it needs to be scuffed/sanded so the primer has something to grab on to.

I like going to bare metal, but that's not always easy. I've also had good luck with a quick scuff of sandpaper on the tin and a power wire brush on the cast iron.

Paint quality is 99% preparation, so don't just paint over what's there without doing something to it.

 

[Goose]

As Steven said, a quality paint job is 99% preparation. The automotive type finishes people are putting on tractors nowadays is very unforgiving stuff. It just loves to show off what's underneath it. Sand scratchs, improperly feathered old paint, etc. will all show through.

When I had my own one man body shop, specializing in restoring pickup trucks, I finally made an unbreakable rule. I did not paint anything I had not done the prep work on. People would always want to do their own prep work to try to save money, then when the final result was lousy, it was out there on the street with your name on it and the owner telling people what lousy work you did.

People would come in, just wanting me to "shoot some paint on it to make it look better", and then leave in a huff when I told them if that's how they wanted it done, they'd have to go elsewhere.

Back to the original question, anything cast is more forgiving than sheet metal, and some blending solvents will soften the substrate to allow new paint to adhere. Most old tractors we're dealing with probably still have the old alkyd enamel on them, that might be worth a shot.

 

[Mike in Ohio]

One year when mom and dad took off for a long vacation I decided to paint dad's allis ca. By the way it takes more than three weeks of nights and weekends to do that.I had it all sanded down to bare metal and about half of it primered When they got home. I did not primer the rest just shot the orange and put it back together(dad wanted both his tractor and his garage back). You can pretty easily tell which parts were prepared properly and which were not. The primered parts hold up much better. Good luck, Mike

 

[Anonymous-0]

thanks guys for input, just like anything a shortcut can be spotted, some day i will post my tractor to show what ive done thanks again

 

[Lanse]

Well, today i was working for a farm near here that also sold trailers (horse and tractor and such). One of my jobs was to paint them. OK sounds simple enough. The first one was covered in really old cracked paint, with different layers showing different colors. The man said wait here and came back after a few minuites with a gallon of implement paint and a paintbrush, and a roller. OK, here ya go. I asked about primer-na, dont worry about it. Than about wire brushing or even sanding the old paint and was told not to bother. I did as i was told and the finished product was a disaster, but they seemed happy with it. I dont know how they can sell anything like that (mabey im just a perfectionast). Also did a plow and a bushhog, same thing only pure rust and very little old paint. He told me to use a hand wire brush and those two things accually turned out half-decent.

I painted a small garden tractor wagon about a week ago for myself with my trusty $10 HF gun. Paint strippered it, then wire wheeled it, then primed it twice and sanded it, then primed it again, then did i believe 3 coats of color and it turned out great. I also made a set of racks for it and it looks really neat.

 

[Don L C]

Go the third form down to "Restoratyon and Repair Tips" those guys can tell you.....