Please help identify this tractor

[RockyMo]

Hi guys, I usually hang out on some of the other boards but am unfamiliar with the John Deere tractors. I have come across a piece of potential gold and am trying to find more information. The tractor in the pics is owned by what may well be the 2nd owner. He tells me that about 30 or 35 years ago the tractor lost it's brakes and he parked it in the barn. It has not been started or moved since. I tried to roll the engine today and it is stuck but that is probably from rust, not major engine failure. I am not sure what model this is but believe it to be from the 1930's. The old guy that owns it has long forgotten what year and model it is. If someone could identify the model and tell me where to find the serial number I would greatly appreciate it. There is a strong possibility that the owner may decide to part with this tractor so he can have the barn cleaned out. If he does I intend to be first in line to purchase this tractor, but need more info to determine a fair price for both parties. Any info on what it is worth would also be apreciated. Thanks,

[i:654c4848f0]RockyMO
[/i:654c4848f0]<table border =1 cellpadding=2 cellspacing=0 bordercolor=#000000 bgcolor="#a9a9a9"><TR><TD><font size=2>1942 Ford 2N
1953 Ferguson TO 30
Massey Ferguson 2135
Oliver OC3</font></TD></TR></table>

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[Anonymous-0]

john deere H

 

[Anonymous-0]

So I think we would all agree it's a model H, but Is that a JD seat?

 

[HaroldIHC]

I agree. the serial # should be near the belt pully or the mag, its a H ----Harold

 

[Pappy]

Looks like the Monroe after market seat. We have one on a Farmall.

 

[Anonymous-0]

I can tell you that the guy knows to buy quality because that is an older troy - built tiller in the forground and they dont make them like that anymore. I have two of those and they sound almost as nice as a 2 banger at idle.

 

[Mike M]

That is a model H with an aftermarket seat on it.
Those seats are very common to find on these.
I'm thinking it is maybe a 1940 or 1941 ? as it appears to have the serial plate behind the flywheel and not the bolt holes for a starter. Hard to see though. Is the engine stuck ? even if it is it should free up since it's been inside. Check and see if the rad. is full of antifreeze. If so this is good ! Alot of these models have cracked blocks and heads. Try to look at it close for cracks and/or welds. I'd think if you can get it for $1,000 or less you better snatch it up ! It may even be worth more than $1,000 if not stuck,not cracked up and has really good rims and sheetmetal.

 

[jdhbag]

Looks like you can see the serial number plate behind the flywheel in the first picture. It may be a 1939 model.

 

[Anonymous-0]

It's a JD model "H" but the seat is an aftermarket one of some sort, it aint original. If it's in good restorable cond. give him a grand and see what he says. The H was a good tractor in its day

 

[RockyMo]

Thanks for the info. Now that I have an idea what I am looking at I will be able to get more info such as serial number etc. I cant get all the way around the tractor very well to look at stuff because of all the junk in the barn. The old guy that owns all of this is wanting to clean the barn out so that it will be usable again. I have volunteered to help in doing this for free just for the opportunity to see what kind of old antique treasures are there. Just a short look around says that there should be several thousand dollars worth of what he considers junk. The tractor engine is stuck but on my next visit I will pull the plugs and add some lubricant to start soaking the cylinders. I sucpect this thing can be freed up.

[i:654c4848f0]RockyMO
[/i:654c4848f0]<table border =1 cellpadding=2 cellspacing=0 bordercolor=#000000 bgcolor="#a9a9a9"><TR><TD><font size=2>1942 Ford 2N
1953 Ferguson TO 30
Massey Ferguson 2135
Oliver OC3</font></TD></TR></table>

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[Mike M]

A 1939 would have a tall shifter tower.

 

[Anonymous-0]

no pto and never been drilled for pto handle and it has the heavy flywheel but looks to have slotted front cast wheels

 

[dan_41jdh]

RockyMO,

The fellows below have given you good answers.

As was mentioned, the serial plate is on the main case, just behind the top of the flywheel. Your knuckles almost rub against it when rolling the flywheel over.

Mike M pointed out that is it either a 1940 or 1941 model. More specifically, its serial number is certainly greater than 10000 (evidenced by the shifter tower height) and less than 27000 (serial plate on left side). Those are things that can't be changed. Other features, such as no provision for ammeter, engine breather tube angled up and forward instead of straight up, cast wheels instead of stamped steel, etc., can be easily exchanged between tractors, and can disguise the actual age of the tractor. So, the manufacturing date of the tractor is somewhere between July 1939 to roughly December 1940.

The serial plate was made of aluminum in that era, so the number should be easy to read (no rust).

Mike M's advice about checking the radiator for antifreeze, and well as inspecting the bottoms of the radiator tank, the block, and the head for cracks or welds is extremely important for determining worth of the tractor.

 

[MDM]

Rocky, if you dont want the H, let us know....we are looking for an H to restore

 

[2cylinderlp]

Half the fun is finding tractors this way, isn't it? But what I want to know is how do you get multiple pictures in one post?

 

[rustyfarmall]

The seat is a Monroe easy ride. It was pretty much standard equipment on a lot of IH built tractors, but was also used extensively on Massey-Harris tractors. The seat was also available to be used on the 2 cylinder JDs, and a few of those seats found their way onto the Ford N series of tractors. If you have one of thopse seats, and are needing parts, you will find anything you need by looking under Farmalls. Either right here on YT, or eBay, or contact me.

 

[RockyMo]

To post multiple pics I first post them on photobucket.com. Then I check the box on each picture I want to post. Next click on generate HTML codes, copy the one listed for html and websites and past it right into the text box. Preview the post and the pics should all be there. Let me know if you need more help and I will be glad to assist you.

[i:654c4848f0]RockyMO
[/i:654c4848f0]<table border =1 cellpadding=2 cellspacing=0 bordercolor=#000000 bgcolor="#a9a9a9"><TR><TD><font size=2>1942 Ford 2N
1953 Ferguson TO 30
Massey Ferguson 2135
Oliver HG</font></TD></TR></table>

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[2cylinderlp]

OK thanks. I have been using space my internet provider gives me on their server. I'll have to set up an account with photobucket.

 

[Anonymous-0]

The Monroe E-Z Rider seats were very common here in New England where we grow rocks in every field. The local JD Dealer sold them back in the 40s and often delivered new tractors with them installed. Our 42H has one, and my dad was the original owner. The original seat is around here somewhere, but no one in their right mind would swap back, IF the tractor is a "daily driver". We're looking for one now for our 44A. The H is highly collectable around here, and I see this one has hydraulics, a desirable option.

 

[john[mo]]

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