After all the help from everyone on here a few weeks ago, I finally got the plow going. I managed to get the plow level when it is in the ground , but it wants to run at a slight angle. if you were standing behind the plow the back of the plow would be slightly to the left. Can anyone help me identify why it is doing this? Or tips on plowing in general would be greatly appreciated. Thanks,
Aaron
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There should be an adjustment somewhere on the tailwheel that will pull the tail wheel either to the right or to the left more. Been a long time since I used one of those plows so I don't remember exactly where it is but it should be there somewhere.
 
It seems to me that every operators manual JD ever printed for the earlier tractors gave complete instruction on the setup and use of a plow. This information is probably in the archives. The picture does not show how deep your running. Looks a little shallow, but maybe you need/want it that way or the tractor does have enough power. How deep you plow will have big effects on adjustment. The plow wall on the back plow is how the plow travels can be partially contolled by the landslide, but maybe you need to move over a notch on the hitch of the plow, not on the drawbar. So many variables, trail and error method required. IT SURE IS FUN FOR ME! Good Luck!
 
Your front bottom does not seem to be plowing as deep as your rear bottom. Looks like you need a little more dirt to fill your last round furrow to me.

That would cause it to draft to the left some.

Drop your right wheel one more notch.

Gary
 
You need to start with the wheel setting on your tractor. Then look at the proper height of your tractor drawbar.This is important for a good line of draft. It appears your rear wheels are set out too wide.I don't know where you live in Illinois, but the soil is really compacted here in Champaign County. You will need real good shares.Are your moldboard polished ? What model is your plow? Is the front bottom taking too much ground ? Get all that corrected then you can get your plow hitch and tail wheel set right. Main thing is have fun. Happy plowing. Earl
 
From your picture the plow mowboards look like they need polishing and do you have good plow sheares? Also by the looks of the soil your rolling it looks like you might have a little hard pan.
 
In addition to what others have said, I think your hitch is set too close to the furrow wheel. The JD operator's manual says the hitch on a 3-14 plow should be at 24 1/2" from the furrow wall. This might require you to off-set the tractor drawbar or narrow up the rear wheels. I think you got new shares but looks like the moldboards need polising up. I have the same JD #55 3-14 plow and it does a very good job if set correctly. Al
 
Hard looking soil... Wow...

Just plowed up ~6 acres of heavy sod today in 2 different fields with a 555H 3-14 plow... Not having any real problems... Pulling it with an Oliver 1600 (my MD does not have hydraulics)...

Only problem I got into on the second field is at one end, about a half acre, the sod will rip loose from the ground and wad up under the plow... The other 3 acres plowed just fine... But this area drove me insane - tried every change known to man and just made a nasty lumpy mess... Finally had to give up on it... Supposed to get rain over the next few days... I will try to finish that spot after the rain and see what happens... Otherwise I will let it go and notill plant it...

Also after the rain I have another field with roughly 5 acres left to go... These last two fields were used as pasture for donkeys for many years and have heavy sod and weeds... Part of it I burned with glypho a few weeks after mowing it... Another section right behind the barn has heaps of straw bedding that was thrown out of the barn on it so I can't mow... Not sure how to plow it either... Might have to use the disc ripper on that section as I cannot run the planter though the wads...

This 555H has welded up, cobbled up, land sides... Never saw anything like it... Also the points are rounded and need replacing...
This winter (Hoping to get the last 5 acres done without a breakdown) I will take it apart and instal new points/shins/sides/coulters as needed..

denny-o
 
The bar stock, on the rear wheel needs to be moved so tail wheel runs 1/4" from furrow wall and needs to be adjusted so lead of the wheel points toward plowed ground, about 10-15 degrees or so, and yes it will look like it is SKIDDING but is supposed to look that way.Rear land side is supposed to just leave a slight mark or impression on the furrow bottom. Hitch jaws control this adjustment. Turn your draw bar up side down, shove it in all the way and like they said , 24.5 inches tire wall from center line of tractor.Put the hitch jaws in the top hole, leaving 3 showing down.Depth around 7-8",s in ground.Should handle 4th gear3/4 ta full throttle.
 

That plow is NOT Plowing....
It is only scratching the surface..
It appears that NO soil is sliding on those Moldboards..it LOOKS like it is just Sticking to them...
Until you Polish them up, you WILL continue to have trouble...
My Grandad always insisted the wearing parts be oiled every night..
Once you do get the plow Scoured, you WILL want to KEEP them that way..!!
Here is a very GOOD way yo remove the rough surface rust on the Coulters and Moldboards..
Use a 41/2" angle grinder with a Cut-off wheel held at about a 30 degree angle and "Scrape" the rust of with it...at that angle, it will NOT cut the steel, only take the Rust off..right down to the Black Oxide under it..
That Black Oxide of fine to leave ON and WILL scour off while plowing..
Be SURE to WEAR a breathing mask AND safety glasses...it WILL be Dusty...!!!
Once you get all of the rust OFF, the plow will do what it was Made to do...NOT until..
Ron..
 
I know my moldboards aren"t scoured i went over them with a grinder with a wire brush wheel. I"ve got new shares and shins. The tractor is set for wide rows so i was hoping to get by with the drawbar to the side. how far in does the drawbar need to be? I also thought about moving the hitch on the plow so that i dont have to have the drawbar over but im worried if i do that it will make the plow pull at a worse angle.
 
Once he gets the plow scouring that will solve most of the problem.Those three plugged up bottoms pushing against that plow is running it to the side. After that he may have to adjust the hitch. He should be plowing deeper to help clean the plow might help.
 
Things to help:
1) The plow needs to be in the ground more. You are just scratching the surface. Does not look like it is even 6 inch deep. Should be 8-9 inch deep.

2) To really get it set right you will have to keep going until you have the moldboards shining. The plow will not work right until then. Since you have used it, hit it with your grinder again but this time leave the grinding wheel on. Just go over it fast with little pressure. Then plow some and then grind the rusty spots again. IF you do this a few times it will shine up.

3) Set your hitch to 24-26 inches to the inside of your tire. As wide as your tractor is set you should be able to get that easily. It is usually hard on a narrowed up tractor.

4) The plow pulling to the left can be caused by several things. The fact that the moldboards are rusty it may pull straight when they are shiny. Also when you go deeper you should get a better furrow side wall. Also check your land slides they may be worn out. The rear bottom corner takes the most force and it wears first. If your plow has been up dated to the newer style then they can be turned 180 degrees and reused. If it has the original one piece ones then they will need replaced. If you go to JD you will have to buy two pieces the wear part and the mounting bracket. IF you are tight on money and can weld I have taken them off and laid new steel over them. You would need to shim out the bottom side to make it straight. The tail wheel will do little in holding the plow straight. The rubber tire will give to much. Some plow with the steel wheel at an angle do use the rear wheel to help yours does not. Your wheel it to set depth and transport the plow.

So check these things out and get it shined up. Then we can try to help you some more.
 
Is that your own land you are plowing? Has it produced a meaningful crop in the past few years?
It looks very dry, and very deficient in micro biogenics. IE any composted organic matterand organic system.
I wonder if you ought to stop turning it and get a soil sample?
 
yeah thats our own ground and it made 60bushel wheat this spring (which is good for around here). The soil isn't as bad as it looks in the picture, we live in Clay county though, hence the name, in the picture it looks like im bringing up bone dry chunks, but that dirt was really moist.
 
third and fourth pictures down.where the series of holes are is called the hitch clevis.when plow is in ground two things you should check.first is hitch hieght,second is offset distance.NIETHER of which anyone here can judge without knowing what size plow you have,they are all simply speculating,and few have a clue.you can plow with that plow ANY depth you want to if hitch is adjusted correctly,moldboards being dirty WONT stop it from plowing,it will only make it so hard to pull you cant plow.because you need a certain amount of speed to turn over ground. just looking without knowing any thing else,in my opinion you need to raise hitch height at clevis,and move plow off set to left(ON PLOW) any adjustments you make on tractor wont do diddly to your plow.theres no adjustments possible on tractor that effects the way that plow is plowing except the hydraulic cyl that lifts it.plows got to be set to tractor,you cant adjust tractor to plow.there are no adjustments to do so.if it were mine,knowing nothing else about it i would raise the hitch ,and lenghten the bar on the side of the hitch that comes in at a angle at least one maybe two holes.in other words turn the points down and to the left.
 
I'm sorry ,told you wrong ,shorten the bar that comes in from side of hitch on a angle instead of lenghtening it.thats what turns plow to track behind tractor.raise hitch height by using the series of holes on plow frame at front to turn points down.hitch height is set when plow is in ground and is what limits depth.angle bar on hitch turns it right or left down centerline of tractor.plow a few feet take a string and run it down hitch ,it should be striaght up and down when plow is in ground 1/2 of moldboard width, and should be straight down hitch to a point 1/4th the width of one bottom,offset from exact center of width of cut of plow.look at the pictures,see where the hitch that attatches to tractor attatches to plow frame?it attatches to two flat plates one on each side.THATS whats called the hitch clevis,that flat plate.look right on the front of the hitch clevis at top where it attatches to frame.there is series of holes there,maybe three or four holes in a semi circle type of araingement.loosen the bolt(s) on the rear of clevis,remove bolt in front and set it in a lower hole until plow gets as deep as you want it,( plow is designed to plow at 1/2 the width of one bottom)what that does by setting hieght is to turn down points so they will dig in.now move on up hitch toward tractor and find the bar coming in from side of frame on an angle.THATS what turns the plow right or left,NOT the tailwheel!!!tailwheel in your pictures is running about right,as far as right and left goes.on THAT plow its used as a depth stop only so that you can simply drop cyl and return to a preset depth.DO NOT use cyl to hold depth at a certain level the frame on that plow cant stand it tailwheel sets depth not cyl it only lets plow into ground or out .tailwheel should run in bottom of rear furrow which it looks like it is doing.NOTHING on your tractor will make a difference on that plow.you could build a hitch twenty foot long off side of tractor to off set that plow and it would plow exactly the same if its setup right.the trick is to get it set to your tractors center of draft.
 
heres the way to set one, on any plow of that type
1- put it on level hard ground or concrete and lower it until ponts just touch ground.on your plow thats what the lever does,thats ALL in does is rolls the plow side to side
2- measure straight up on center bottom from floor to a point 1/2 the width of bottom .(in other words, if that is a 12" plow measure up 6"-14" plow 7"-16" plow 8" etc) and make a mark. from this mark run a string from that point along bottom of hitch to hitch on tractor.hitch MUST BE straight with this line.doing this will show you for sure wheather hitch height must be lowered or raised.adjustment is at the hitch clevis as i said earlier.
3- measure entire distance of the width of cut of plow.the width of all three bottoms. divide that number in half to get center and to that add 1/4 the width of one bottom. measure over from point of front bottom this amount and make a make a mark(you more than likely will find its very near where you measured up from on to set hitch height)these marks are center of draft on your plow and you want that point exactly in line with center of draft on tractor.again run your string down hitch to that point and adjust hitch on plow right or left where it is in a straight line with string.that alone will make your plow track straight.
4- once these are set FOR THAT PARTICULAR TRACTOR,never ever under any circumstance change them,unless you change tractors.NOTHING you could change ther will make one plow better or worse once this is set.if one wont plow after this is done its something else giving you problems NOT THIS once its set its set and it wont change unless you hook plow on a different tractor. but you must make these adjustments every time you change tractors.
5- plow is now set to turn opening furrows,after you plow these and drop tractor and plow tire in furrow,again level plow side to side with lever on top ONLY!on yours the rear tailwheel should set the depth,you can plow any depth you choose by adjusting tail wheel.hydraulic cyl shouldnt carry the load tail wheel should. hope this helps.
 

Drawbar should be Straight, Short and in the Down position...!!!
Off-setting the drawbar will only make steering tougher or impossible in hard plowing conditions...
and you will be on one brake most of the time..

3-14" is plenty for a JD 60...set the plow hitch for the wheel width you have or set the rear wheels to where you can..
That plow hitch is made to allow settings for different wheel widths..up to a point..

LISTEN to what we have told you..CLEAN those Moldboards with a Cut-Off wheel held at a 30 deg angle and GET THAT RUST OFF, and you will be HAPPY..!!!

Ron..
 

Jackinok..we are ALL giving him GOOD information here...
Don't confuse him...I agree with you adjustments, and once he gets the rust worn off (if ever), on he gets it cleaned up, he will be good to go..
You can't set a plow when the soil will NOT slide over the moldboards..you should know that..!!!

Ron..
 
let me explain why its not generally recommended to clean your moldboards with a grinder,since i havent seen anyone ever explain it. Most moldboards are what is known as "soft centered" what this means is that they have a hard,almost case hardened layer on the out side,and a soft steel layer inside. This actually makes them stronger and less likely to break.The reason is because when you harden a piece of steel it makes it brittle and its more likely to snap,where as a soft piece of steel is not likely to just snap. This means is you get a lot longer life out of your moldboards because they shed dirt off the hardened surface better and since its harder it's more resistant to wear from the scouring action of soils.If you use a grinder to clean your moldboard you run the risk of cutting thru this hardened layer down to the soft center,when this happens you can quite literaly wear a hole right through one in a very short period of time because this soft center cant take that scouring action.Since you really cant tell how thick the hardened layer is its just not really recommended to do it.HOWEVER! if i personally had a plow that i could still buy moldboards for easily i would do it on mine.Simply to speed up the cleaning process.But if i had a old plow that its next to impossible to find parts for i wouldnt want to risk it. In other words i'ts not really recommended,but its been done a lot of times.But that is the reason most folks are against it and why its not really recommended.
 
.I know the tractor will handle it because my grandpa pulled that same plow with that same tractor since he bought it new in "56. What I"m wondering though is if I move the hitch on the plow over, will it make the plow pull crooked.
 

It depends on how you "move it over"...!

If it is being pulled by the drawbar and the drawbar is very nearly straight with the center-line of the tractor..

You can adjust the plow to any position on the Cross-bar and it will pull straight.

That may not be enough, if your tractor wheels are set too Wide..or too Narrow..
You should need to run the Rt rear tractor tire very near the Furrow wall, to have the front plow bottom cutting a 14" wide furrow slice..
Ron..
 
no ,, move it as far as you want. if plow is setup correctly all you will do is move draft from center of tractor onto the wheel closest to plow.sort of a leverage thing,tire farthest away will slip more because of increased leverage and decreased draft while one closest to draft wont.same basic setup as when you are plowing on a side hill.shift draft over to high side and you offset the natural high side slippage somewhat.plow of course will still run straight if properly setup simply because line of draft is still parallel to line of pull.
 
ok,seems i'm getting in trouble here ,(i do that a lot), but i bet i can tell you what you are experiencing and im not even there.first dirty moldboards will not cause one not to plow,HEAR me out here.what happens when you have dirty rusty moldboards is a layer of soil sticks to them and then the next layer starts sliding over the top of it.this in no way keeps one from plowing but it really increases draft simply because dirt doesnt like to slide on dirt. it will slide much easier on a polished metal surface so this of course decreases draft.heres a little tip.you could plow a week and not clean those moldboards up if you dont remove that first layer of dirt stuck to them.plow down one side of field.get off and scrape the stuck dirt off moldboards,plow down next side,stop and do it again.as long as that layer of dirt remains stuck to them it will take a very long time to clean them up.but if you scrape them off every little bit they will polish in no time.
 

I can see in the 4th, 5th & 6th picture that your Plow Hitch is set as far to the Left(as seen setting in the tractor seat) as it can be set...
That means, you have the option of moving the Plow's Drawbar toward the Left as far as you need..
Looks like you have more than 6 holes..maybe more that you can use..

Ron..
 
So even if my line of draft isn't 3/4 of the way over and 6 inches up on the middle bottom, it wil still pull alright is what you're sayin?
 

"Line-of-Draft" is the line you would see when the plow is IN the ground, at normal average plowing DEPTH..
It is a line from the drawbar, along the plow tongue, through the plow to the 2nd plow moldboard ending at a point about 1/3 of the way up ..
You can have the correct "Line-of-draft" even though you move the plow (Hitch "A-Frame")right or Left..
Moving the "A-Frame" Right or Left would not change the "Line of Draft"..Only the amount of "Off-Hitch" ..which is what you want to adjust to match the plow to your rear wheel spacing..
The "A-Frame" has 2 "Jaws" mounting it to the Plow and they also let the Hitch pivot up and down..
The rear wheels on my "B" are set at 29 1/2" to the Inside of the rear tires.(Cultivator width).
On my JD #44 Plow I use on my JD "B", the Plow's drawbar is set to the hole right beside the LEFT "Jaw", on the inside of that Jaw and the "A-Frame" is Square, to make the plow's tongue run Straight..
Looks like your 3-Bottom may use a similar Tongue position, to cut a 14" wide furrow on the front Bottom, while your Rt Rear tire is running close to the furrow wall..
Off-Hitching is usually not well understood, but is described in the JD Plow Manuals..

Ron..
 
Hate to beat a dead horse, but there is some terrible misinformation here.

If you try to make the plow pull straight by adjusting the hitch, you will make the tractor impossible to steer, as BushogPapa mentioned. You have worn landsides or the tail wheel needs adjusting, or both. If your landsides are steel, just weld some junk on them to build them up. Its a good chance you made the problem worse by putting on new shares, as the new share cuts wider than the landside. Waiting for the moldboards to scour won't magically fix this problem.

Once the plow pulls straight, the front furrow slice will fill in better and you can set coulters and get other things tuned in.

I don't see anything wrong with your wheel spacing, it can be made to work as is.

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See the attached image. "Line of Draft" is set by the point of pull on the plow, point C, and the plow hitch, Point B. Point A is the point of pull, as the operator's manuals say. Point A is really the dynamic center of gravity of the tractor. You want to equalize the moment, or torque, around the Dyn. COG so the tractor can move forward without something trying to rotate it. You want Points B and C to line with A, which does not create torque around the Dyn COG. When you don't do this, you create a torque and the front of the tractor pulls to one side or the other.

My suggestion- don't get caught up running strings and putting things on blocks. Get in the field, and adjust the plow hitch and tractor hitch side to side to make the tractor steer neutral and make the front bottom cut the correct width-at the same time. Easy! :lol:

What else....Depth is set by the hydraulic cylinder. Tail wheel vertical adjustment rolls the plow forward or back. Lowering the tail wheel turns the points down and creates suck but it also raises the tails of the moldboards. Raising the tail wheel has the opposite effect.

It is my policy, which is echoed by every plow manual, is to run the plow vertical hitch adjustment as low as possible, and then adjust the tractor hitch to create the correct line of draft. When you run your tractor hitch in the down position as BushogPapa suggests, you should be good. If you feel the need to plow a foot deep and the plow hitch drags on the ground, that is the only reason to ever raise the hitch.

In a nutshell, the angle of the hitch (when viewed from the side) determines the balance of the reaction forces between the front wheels and the tail wheel. A plow hitch too flat, shifts the reaction force away from the tail wheel and onto the front wheels, making the rear of the plow bob up and down(unstable). A plow hitch too steep shifts the reaction force from the front wheels onto the tail wheel. I err to this side because the plow will run stable until there is zero force on the front wheels. At which time, the plow will still be stable, but it will begin to shallow up evenly (stable is better than unstable). If you want more details and diagrams, I [i:b2a6b797cf]can[/i:b2a6b797cf] defend this info.

And back to the tail wheel: if your vertical hitch adjustment is off, the tail wheel will flop around and adjusting it will accomplish nothing.

I encourage cleaning rust off before going to the field. And, I like to go further and get the black layer off also. Soil sticks to the black layer for me, and it just takes that much longer to wear off the black layer until you can start polishing the good steel underneath it.

I think that's it.
John
 
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