pto rake Vs. gound driven rake

[ratskinner]

I am wondering what the avenges of a pto driven hay rake over a ground driven rake. I have a ground driven one now and I am looking at a pto rake.

 

[msb]

PTO is much better. If you want a fluffy windrow, speed the basket up. Just want to flip or turn the windrow. Slow it down.

 

[Roy in UK]

Amen to that. After rain ground driven rakes turn the windrow into a "rope" in my experience, especially in a thick crop, which is more difficult to dry out again . The PTO rake leaves it fluffier so the air can get through it. Your baler will be happier too.

 

[chrisinsoky]

i luv my pto massey #12 rake. you can also slow it down so you dont beat the leaves off your alfalfa, clover etc. ground driven rakes seem to be hard on them

 

[ryanwheelock]

Ground driven pick-up more dirt and it ends up in the windrow

 

[Sid]

Adjust it so it doesn't.

 

[BCnT]

you put a pto rake on the ground and it will hill dirt up in windrows.

 

[HP 28-50]

Used a JD 3 pt. on the farm as a boy. That"s all we ever had. Didn"t know then but have read alot about pto rakes in the recent past and will atest to the job it did on our farm for 25 plus years. There is better control in the performance through varying crops.

 

[Tx Jim]

(quoted from post at 21:16:02 05/17/10) I am wondering what the avenges of a pto driven hay rake over a ground driven rake. I have a ground driven one now and I am looking at a pto rake.

the speed of the pto rake bars/teeth can be slowed down or sped up simply by changing pto speed and shifting tractor trans gears up or down. Plus if needing to flip rained on windrows some times ground driven rake rubber tires will slide instead of turning.

 

[MSS3020]

Speed vrs. dirt.. I raked 20 acres of grass with my old J.D. side discharge rake took me 6 hours. I raked same acres with my 10 wheel ground driven. took me just under 2 hours. HOWEVER... ground driven does use the ground to drive the wheels no if ands or buts. raise them to high no raky. Two low lots of dirt. #2 however I sale to alot of people and havent had one complain about the "dirty hay" By the time you feed it out and the animals kick it around you dont think there's dirt in it..

 

[Greyhorse]

Look at a hydraulic rake like a Vermeer twin rake too. You can set it to pick the hay up and not the dirt and still go fast. You just need at least 6 gpm hydraulic flow.

 

[dansuper27]

You guys must have never used a good ground driven rake. Properly adjusted it will NOT put dirt in the windrow and will turn large windrows without roping. The old JD 850 rakes are one of the best. My experience with PTO or Hydraulic rakes is they turn too fast and are more prone to roping.

 

[Tx Jim]

(quoted from post at 00:16:45 05/20/10) Look at a hydraulic rake like a Vermeer twin rake too. You can set it to pick the hay up and not the dirt and still go fast. You just need at least 6 gpm hydraulic flow.

And a tractor with a very large hyd oil cooler to try to keep hyd oil from looking similar to cooking oil after several hrs running a hyd rake!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Anonymous-0]

are you talking about a rake that is ground driven by the 2 rear wheels and 1 run by the PTO. Or you talking about the kind with the big raking wheels that run on the ground. There is a difference. I have used all 3 types, I prefer the type that are ground driven from the 2 rear wheels. True it takes a lot more time to rake than with the wider large wheeled ground driven type. I think it was Iowa State University that ran tests on rakes. They came to the conclusion the large wheeled, ground driven rakes picked up too much dirt, which the livestock ate.