refrigerator

You can buy R22 at any HVAC parts house. You will need a EPA card. They come in 30 pound containers which is alot more then you need. By the way it cost you alot.
 
r 22 is still available,but you have to have a
person like a repair man,just had a new heat an air
unit repaired leak in line it had r22 in it
 
R-22 is in a phase out program, this means the amount of R-22 that can be produced is being limited to a percentage of what was produced inthe base year. In 2020 R-22 production will be eliminated and only R-22 already produced or that has been recycled will be available to service existing equipment. Currently you need a license or certificate to purchase R-22
 
Walmart doesn't sell this, but look on Craigslist-you might get lucky and find some. Looked on it here and a guy in Newton, Ia has two 1# cans for $15.00 for both. R12 guage set can be used to charge, and as said, it MUST be vacuumed for several HOURS to remove all moisture from the system.
 
Thanks for that info. I wonder if he would ship it. I have a compressor off of a refrigerator that I can use to pull a vacuum. I wish I could get the 1 pound cans here.
 
do as you wish but, flea-bay/c-list is a big gamble to hope that they send you the true item, plus don't know how much to ship haz-mat thru mail/freight/trucking, if they can.... local buys are better, you see what you are getting, not taking chance of wrong/phoney product and money and time wasted....also check with local repair shop, maybe they have/can do it cheap enough, save you time/trouble....my opinion.
 

You might want to recheck the nameplate on that unit again, most older refrigerators used R12 until they switched to R134A
 
Ordinary home fridge or a commercial unit? If it's just a home fridge, scrap the clunk and purchase a new one. Instead of dealing with worn door seals, air leaks, leaking Freon, worn hinge pins and worn compressor/fan/defroster.
If you really insist. Add some lube,use propane as coolant and place the fridge outside.
 
Do the new refrigerators use R134? This one did have R12 but I have used R22 as a replacement before and it worked good. In order to use R134 they say you have to remove the compressor and drain out all the old oil and replace it with new compatable oil.
 
This refrigerator is already outside. The propane idea sounds interesting. Will propane get cold enough?
 

R22 and R12 are completely 2 different refrigerants they have different pressure/temperature, density and enthalpy curves, R22 is not a drop in replacement for R12,

R134A is a closer match to R12 but as you have been told the oil needs to be changed.

Unless you use R12 or a drop in substitute for R12 I don’t think this project has much chance of being a success.
 
Hello Old Tom,
You talking enthalpy to a guy that replaced R12 with R22? AND it worked good!@#$%^&
Guido.
 
"This one did have R12 but I have used R22 as a replacement"

That just simply BEGS the question to be asked "WHY did you do that"????????????????


(And folks %#$@&+ when the epa tries to regulate what can be done!)
 
Freeze 12? I didn't know they made such a thing. Thanks for the info. That's why I like this site. I learn something new every day.
 
I'm not sure that freeze 12 is an acceptable substitute for R-12 in a hermetic system... better check that out for sure!!!!!!!

I would simply pick up a can or two or REAL R-12 on ebay and get 'er done with the refrigerant the system was DESIGNED for! (How many ounces does the tag say?)

It typically sells for $15 to $30 a can (12 or 14 oz.).
 
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