Restoring a Ford 4000

[Randy Walker]

Hello my name is Randy Walker and I have a 1965 Ford 4000 that I am wanting to restore. I have never worked or dealt with tractors but I am wanting to restore this one since it was my grandfathers. Can any give me any suggestions on were to start?

 

[souNdguy]

#1 first thing to do is get a set of manuals.

1, the owners manual

2, the ford shop manual

3, master parts catalog

4, might as well go ahead and get the I&T shop manual.. not as good as the ford manual.. but cheap.. and does have some good info.. etc..


Soundguy

 

[Air Force One]

What do you think about the "Pointless Electronic system for ford 850? Is it worth the money and does it hold up? thanks

 

[Dean]

AF:

Though I have no first hand experience with electronic ignition modules for vintage Ford tractors, I have been told that the 12V versions work well while the 6V versions are marginal.

Dean

 

[Larry NCKS]

Just curious, SouNd. What the heck does he need an IT shop manual for if he gets the Ford one? It surely doesn't have info that the Ford one doesn't does it?

 

[RodinNS]

It's been a while but I seem to recall that there was some info in the I&T that wasn't in the Ford book, or it was presented somewhat differently... but it still wouldn't justify the cost if ya ask me.
Ford Operators manual.
Ford Service manual.
NewHolland.com/na for the parts listings unless you simply have to have abook...

Rod

 

[souNdguy]

I don't have any tractors with electronic ignition. I do pretty good with a couple dollar set of points ever few years.. however.. I can say that a large portion of the questions that get asked ont he ford N board are for help diagnosing electronic ignition problems.

I agree with dean.. if I was going to do an EI.. I'd convert to 12v first..

soundguy

 

[Anonymous-0]

I'm DEEP in a restore of a ford 4000, actually, mine is a 4200 rowcrop, but it's a 4000 series. This is my first tractor endeavor. If you wanna swap stories....I'm game. I tore it back to the rear, trans off, engine rebuilt completely, hydraluic lines redone...etc. Trust me, this is all I do anymore with my free time. Happy to help if you are interested.

 

[awhtx]

I have both manuals for the Hundred series and I can definitely say that I found useful info in the I&T manual that was not found in the Ford manual and vice versa.

 

[souNdguy]

The I&T has some updated parts listing.. especially where parts are superceded. As awhtx points out.. the I&T manuals are not word for word reprints, and every now and then you do find different info, and some of it us usefull. For the paltry 25-30$.. it's worth having considering we pay a few thousand for the tractor.. etc.

soundguy

 

[RodinNS]

"the I&T manuals are not word for word reprints" Rich, sounder.... RICH. That's got to be the understatement of the week! The I&T books have about 1/10th the information of the Ford books by volume, but I do grant you, some of it is different.

Rod

 

[souNdguy]

I guess i shoulda added a 'wink' in there to denote the humor.. but yeah.. some of it is different. I figure an extra 30$ along the way on the tractor cost is pennies when you add up other costs...

Soundguy

 

[Anonymous-0]

Wise folks on this forum have often spoken a simple proverb. "You have bought the iron, now buy the paper." Makes good bedtime reading material too.

 

[Dave in MS]

Having all the info I can get my hands on gives me that warm and fuzzy feeling, so I have Ford Service, Parts, and the I&T manuals for both my NAA and 640. I feel the I&T has more detailed info on the hydraulics than the Ford manual. While overhauling the NAA's tranny and hydraulics last summer, I would have been lost without all 3 manuals and the guys on this forum.

 

[Anonymous-0]

Lots of stuff in the manuals ,just take care ,as some places youn can buy them from are REPRINTS and the picture quality if not very good and all black and white ,so wireing drawings that are color coded ,don't show up ..look for an original ,,wish I had of