?s about using the T/A

[Anonymous-0]

I pulled in my first Antique pull this last weekend. I used a IH 300. When I got to the rules they said that I could not use the TA when I was pulling but, I could pull it before I left the line but I could not release it at all during the pull. Is this something that every pull does? I was pulling 6,000 and 6,500 lbs stock classes and it would of been nice to use the T/A. And another thing is they would not let you pull over if you were the first puller in the class. Is this common too?

 

[Smokin Joe]

Mark,

I don"t know were in WI you are located, but I have been pulling in WI for 5 years or better and unless something goes wrong with the sled, the first puller usually does not get to pull again. I know others may but I don"t see it here much if at all.

After time you"ll just learn to get it right the first time and you wont have to worry about it.

About the T/A, I don"t pay attention to rules about them because I don"t have one.

Good luck the rest of the season.

 

[Anonymous-0]

It's because Farmall was the the first to put a TA in a tractor and the others complain it gives us unfair advantage. I always say it's not my problem your tractor doesn't have one but most places won't let you use them unless you run Div. 4 or higher. In Div.3 it helps me because I can run in between gears.

 

[showcrop]

Hi Mark, back here in New England the way it usually works is some pulls are antique and you can't use a TA, but most are farm "stock" ha ha, where you can use them. At most pulls there are few rules that are enforced so ya run what ya brung and hope ya brung enough. But it is pretty universal too that the first puller is test puller and if he thinks he can do better he can go back and do it again.

 

[Anonymous-0]

the ta is a some do some dont rule here in western pa.the 1st puller thing is the same the club i pull with most of the time doesn't let you come back. 99% of the time if i'm aloud to i dont come back. tracks most of the time are best 1st.

 

[Anonymous-0]

Here in the South most of our tracks pull stock and super stock. T/A can be run on high side or low side in stock but can't shift. In super you can shift. Usually the first to pull in a class stays with that pull. We do have a foul line, most tracks foul line is 25'. You can actually stop your pull and back up and start over. It don't happen a lot in stock because you have to pull in 1st gear anyway. In super it can help due to the fact you can pull in any gear so if you are in to high of a gear you get the chance to start over. If your tractor is pretty fast 25' comes up pretty quick.

 

[utupuller]

I dont understand why the red guys cant use it. Last year I ran a pull for the first time and allowed them to use it. Just an antique pull but, hay, it is a stock antique tractor. They let JD's pull with power blocks that where not stock. It was only allowed to be pulled once though. Sad to say I wont be doing the pull again as I relocated 800 miles away.

 

[263 build]

you should actually never use the ta. pick the gear that you don't have to shift. ex. 2nd high is faster than 3rd low. so if you run out of power in 2nd high and had to pull the ta you should have been in 3rd low to begin with

 

[Anonymous-0]

You could you only use low gear in the stock classes. I going to have to adjust the carb hopefully get a few more RPMS out of it. I'm kinda in a tough spot in the weight classes. If I go lighter I won't have enough traction cause my tires are bad. In the heavier classes had enough traction just run out of power. Should of pulled the TA at the line and crawled along. I am going to pull at the same track later in the summer so I am going to take the fenders off and all the rest of the wheel weights and see if I can't get into the 5500 lb class. Would take the fast hitch off but my dad likes to use it to break beads on tires.

 

[Frankenstein JD-A]

I believe that the rule against using the T/A in a speed limit class and the rule of not having 1st puller option save the puller from....himself.

In a speed limit class, even with an experienced puller, when you use the torque subsitiute lever, you are probably going to hurt yourself. I have seen many tractors pull the T/A and stop within 5 feet because they go from pulling the engine down to blowing the tires off. More often than not, you will be better off letting the engine pull down and die rather than stick it and spin out in a few feet. There is a small window of time where you can pull it and possibly benefit yourself.

The club I pull with did away with the 1st puller option rule several years ago. First and foremost, it made the pulls go quicker. If every puller took their option, you could add almost an hour to the pull. On top of that, unless you screwed up really bad on setup, you are better off taking your first hook.

 

[Anonymous-0]

maybe 560 puller can tell me why Case pulers couldn't use case-o-matic at farm pulls, if it's ok for ih guys to use the ta, I think it was because the binder junk was getting beat up on by com 830's in really heavy classes! They couldn't use com around here. As for antique pulling put the lever ahead or back before, usually torquing doesn't help anyway but have times it did. I'd worry more about pulling off fast hitches, they should not be allowed anywhere, under load they go back and up because of the cam action of the hitch.

 

[Anonymous-0]

ps- Case and Deere put the "torque" in the engine not at the end of the lever!!!! We had a 4 and 560 and there will never again be one of those on this farm!!!!

 

[Anonymous-0]

Um I didn't come on here to be bashed by a JD guy. I simply wanted to know if that was a rule that alot of pulls used. You JD guys are always so touchy about stuff.

 

[Anonymous-0]

Besides I agree with 560. I was pulling in a stock antique class and the 300s all come with TA stock from the factory. I don't know about the case o matic that is too big of tractor for my classes anyway. But my brother pulled his 1256 in the 13,000lb class and you could use your TA and Powershift if you wanted. In the 9500 lb class an Oliver used his OverUnder

 

[SUPER MTA PULLER]

John deeres didnt have them so they are not legal even though they came from the factory!!!John deeres did NOT come from the factory with 9.25 crank and 7 inch piston yet they are legal.And if the TORQUE AMPLIFIER didnt help you guys wouldnt complain about them. Nuff said.

 

[IBleedIHRed]

You would be touchy to if you had a tractor that ran like a 3 legged deer.

 

[Anonymous-0]

So explain to me why we cant use ta's if you have all that power. What are you afraid of.